“The Role of Women in the Plan of Salvation” pt. 3 The Eternal Law of Monogamy

This is a topic that is very near to my heart.

I believe it is a determining factor in finding the pure in heart during our time on earth. For us living at the close of the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham, it becomes even more important.

As we wait patiently for true prophets to return to the earth with the priesthood authority to establish Zion, we need to have our minds set on what we should be expecting by those that will profess to be sent from God.

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Polygamy is the most important thing to happen to Mormonism. It’s the evidence that the LDS church is not true. Yet this is apparent through two differing views. Either it’s not true because of the abandonment of polygamy, or because it was practiced in the first place.

For Mormons that have awakened to the fact that the LDS leadership have next to zero inspiration, polygamy becomes a great test. Where did we go wrong?

For me it was a huge struggle. I studied countless different perspectives, considered all the angles.

Matter-of-factly, I really wanted the church to be true. Because of this, I blocked out my personal feelings on the matter. Polygamy just had to be true, or Joseph would have never started it.

The talk of Emma being destroyed in Section 132 turned my stomach into knots, but if the revelation came from God, who was I to criticize its language?

It was only until I came across a passage in the New Testament that changed everything for me.

Galatians 3:

22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of the promise.

This reminded me of Section 132. It spoke of both Ishmael (son of the bondmaid, Hagar) and Isaac (son of the freewoman, Sarah). So I looked up what it said:

Section 132:

34 God commanded Abraham, and Sarah gave Hagar to Abraham to wife. And why did she do it? Because this was the law; and from Hagar sprang many people. This, therefore, was fulfilling, among other things, the promises.

I realized that the message of Section 132 was out of sync with what Paul was saying: Isaac was of the promise, while Ishmael wasn’t! Yet 132 claims that Ishmael was somehow fulfilling these promises made to Abraham.

Section 132 is also incongruent with the Genesis account. There’s absolutely no evidence that God commanded Abraham to have a child through Hagar. I realized that Section 132 made claims that couldn’t be backed up by any other scriptures. It stood alone.

Since then, I’ve discovered literally dozens of more reasons to reject it. In this, I have not been alone. It’s become very apparent that there are many Saints now realizing how contradictory Section 132 truly is.

Here’s one such person: https://gregstocks.wordpress.com/2014/10/02/dc-section-132-is-an-other-gospel/

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After realizing that polygamy is not true, the question becomes: Why would God allow it to enter into his church?

The next major realization is discovering that God didn’t, because when polygamy entered the LDS church in 1842, it was no longer his church anymore. As warned in Section 124, it had been rejected of him.

In Section 38, the Saints were told that they needed the law of the gospel to protect them against the enemy. If they had lived the law of the gospel as contained in Section 42, they would have been protected from Satan.

But they didn’t live the law. The everlasting covenant was broken, and Zion could not be established.

This is why Joseph Smith lost the spirit and turned into a lying adulterer.

I went through a stage where it was all I could do to believe that Joseph was in fact innocent, that the whole polygamy thing was a plot of Brigham Young, but I have since outgrown that paradigm.

I believe that Brigham loved Joseph and would not have lied about him. In fact, I believe that Brigham really thought of himself as a righteous man who was following God.

Apparently, on BY’s death-bed, his last words were, “Joseph, Joseph…”

He loved Joseph far more than he could ever love a spouse. I think this is a common trait in many men: they care more for their gender, and look down on woman.

I believe most men worship themselves and each other.

Heber C. Kimball, for instance, upon request of the prophet, was willing to give up his wife to Joseph. Of course, he ended up pimping out his fourteen-year-old daughter to him instead.

Heber essentially traded his soul to the devil; and in return, received 40+ wives.

Willard Richards, to use another example, took two young teenaged wives (16 and 14) in Nauvoo. His first wife, Jenetta Richards, died abruptly after those marriages. Willard and Jenetta’s son, Heber Richards, claimed that his mother had died of a broken heart.

I bring these up, not to point out how evil these former LDS leaders were, but to illustrate the reality of the situation.

Willard Richards wrote his first wife, “If you will cling to me, and seek my happiness to the end I will bring you into the kingdom.”

Today, Mormon men do not commit the sin of polygamy, but I believe they are under the same condemnation.

I feel as though they would if they could.

They do not have a testimony of the eternal law of monogamy. They do not seek to be one with their spouse, to be equal. Like Willard, they believe their wives must seek their happiness and that they will bring them to the celestial kingdom.

The Mormon temple sealing encourages these beliefs. The women “give” themselves to the man, and the man “receives” them. Also, there’s no mention of the word “love” during the entire thing– even though the scriptures tell us that God is love and that we should pray with all energy of heart to have love…

I believe that Mormonism mocks the most important thing we are to accomplish during our time on earth.

Richard G. Scott was my favorite of all the apostles that have been around during my lifetime. His wife passed away in 1995, but unlike nearly every other Mormon man (especially GA’s) he refused to remarry.

He had a testimony of Jesus’ teachings on marriage, not a testimony of the BS culture of Mormonism.

According to the Lord, we are to never divorce, nor remarry. Even if someone seperate from their spouse, they will always be married to that person in the eyes of God. Thus any remarraige is adultery. This includes polygamy. No second marriages are valid in the eyes of God as part of the celestial law of monogamy.

The reason for this is because in our spiritual creation we were both male and female. In this life we are to find our counterpart and become one flesh. Section 42 commands men to LOVE their wife, and cleave unto her and NONE ELSE.

After rejecting Section 42’s law of the gospel, is it any wonder that the church ended up practicing polygamy and ommitting the mention of love in their wedding ceremonies?

Without a true church and priesthood authority, the Saints were being controlled by men who were not annointed by God. This is why so many false doctrines have been perpetuated among God’s people.

Women, unlike men, are born with the innate desire to love. Eve was told that her desire would be to her husband, and that she would be saved by child-bearing.

How amazing is that?

Men, on the other hand, would not be saved so easy. Only by becoming a new creature in Christ do they have the oppurtunity to receive eternal life. Only by embracing the gospel of Jesus Christ can they be true husbands and fathers.

Men are NOT born with the innate desire to their wife. Men are born with pride, and their desire is to themselves.

The only men that are pure in heart are the ones that recognize the holiness and sanctity of marriage. They lift up the glory of women and are forever faithful.

They live the teachings of Jesus Christ, even when prophets don’t.

-G.azelem

False Prophets pt. 3 “Second Comforter Prophets”

I’ve been following Denver Snuffer for years now. Much of what he has written is legitimate and thoughtful. If it was anyone but him, I’d be impressed by his thoughts and ideas. However, DS claims that he has been taught by Jesus Christ.

With claims like that, there comes a greater expectation. Because of this, I have carefully scrutinized both him and his teachings. In fact, he has demanded that everyone do this. Read this:

I have never said this publicly, but because of what I think will ensue after this talk I am going to say it, not for my sake, and certainly not for the sake of anyone who believes the truth or who has the Spirit, but I say it only to benefit those who may view things completely otherwise. 9 The Lord has said to me in His own voice, “I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you.” Therefore, I want to caution those who disagree with me, to feel free, to feel absolutely free to make the case against what I say. Feel free to disagree, and make your contrary arguments. If you believe I err, then expose the error and denounce it. But take care; take care about what you say concerning me for your sake, not for mine. I live with constant criticism. I can take it. But I do not want you provoking Divine ire by unfortunately chosen words if I can persuade you against it.
–Lecture 10

Yikes.

I remember reading this on my mission, when the lectures were first transcribed onto denversnuffer.com; and I want it known that I took what he said very seriously. Everyone should– because if Denver really has been called to deliver a message from God, we of course need to heed and obey, or thus be damned instead.

Since then I have found numerous reasons to reject Denver Snuffer and thus classify him as a false prophet.

The biggest reason is this next claim of his, delivered in the same lecture as the last paragraph I’ve already included:

Thereafter, I appealed to the First Presidency, outlining the involvement of the 12 and the 70. The appeal gave notice to them all. The appeal was summarily denied. Last general conference, the entire First Presidency, the 12, the 70, and all other general authorities and auxiliaries, voted to sustain those who abused their authority in casting me out of the church. At that moment, the Lord ended all claims of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, to claim it is led by the priesthood.
–Lecture 10

According to DS, during the general conference of April 2014, all claims of priesthood in the LDS church became void. A very bold thing to say. Did this happen? He is either correct, or he is wrong. Remember, he is being tutored by Jesus Christ, and angels– so he better know what he’s talking about.

So does the LDS church still have the priesthood?

No, it doesn’t.

But this has nothing to do with Denver Snuffer.

Since 1841, the church has only held one of the three orders of priesthood. So in April 2014, there was nothing important to lose.

[The church only contains the Aaronic priesthood– until the sons of Levi AGAIN offer unto the Lord an offering of righteousness.]

Apologist’s of Denver may contest me and say that Denver was not saying that the church lost the Melchizedek or Patriarchal, but simply lost whatever priesthood it had– but that would be to deny all of Denver’s previous teachings on priesthood.

In 2009, Denver had this to say:

The Church holds the sealing power as a part of the restoration of all things… Joseph commented on three degrees of priesthood: Aaronic, Melchizedek and Patriarchal… The Church possesses and administers all three. Those who have their callings and election made sure also hold all three.
–Beloved Enos

Denver has clearly taught that the church held all three priesthoods. Once you understand the simple matter that the fulness of the priesthood was lost in 1835 to never be restored, all his points fall flat.

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Just as you can surmise the LDS teachings into one simple concept– “follow the prophet”– the same thing can be done with Denver:

“You can receive the second comforter.”

A recent development I’ve had with my own understanding of the gospel is that there is actually no such thing as a second comforter.

There is only the Comforter.

I’ve realized the whole concept of Denver’s teachings have been built on a faulty premise; and that everyone teaching or believing in a “second” Comforter have been deceived.

And yes– I know that Joseph Smith apparently did teach that there was a second Comforter, but that wouldn’t be the first thing he got wrong. I think the scriptures speak for themselves.

John 14-17 contain many marvelous and deep teachings. In my opinion, it’s there that we find the meat of the gospel.

We read in Hebrews that the meat of the gospel is only for those that have learned to discern between good and evil. Therefore, I think that anyone that misinterprets the deeper teachings of Christ, have not used the milk of the gospel to deliver themselves from doing and practicing evil. Only until someone sheds their false beliefs will they then understand the true essence of what the gospel of Jesus Christ is really saying.

I do not believe myself to be completely exempt. Even the humble followers of Christ are deceived in one way or another. I do not think I am 100% right about anything, but I do think that I have learned to discern between good and evil.

That said, I wouldn’t want anyone taking my word for anything. Same with Joseph Smith, or anyone else. We need to go back to the word of God and discover what it actually says about a given subject.

No matter what religion we grew up with, we all have been brainwashed and indoctrinated to believe falsehoods.

For instance, I never would have thought to question the concept of the second Comforter. I’ve been seriously studying the scriptures for years, but not once had it ever crossed my mind to doubt whether or not there even is a second Comforter. That’s how deeply ingrained it is in LDS thought.

Over the last few years, I’ve had to slowly peel away all the false teachings I’ve grown up with.

Here is why I reject the second Comforter, and all those that espouse it:

In John 14 we read,

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth;

Here the Comforter is referred to as the Spirit of truth. This is the “other” Comforter that people believe is not the Holy Ghost, but Jesus Christ. The reason people think that it is not the Holy Ghost, is because the word “another” is placed there. I admit that this does make it appear as though there is a distinction. However, I think the key is that the Comforter referred to in verse 16 is associated with being the Spirit of truth.

With that said, take a look at John 15:

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.

This verse does not support the second comforter doctrine. When you discard that idea, the theology behind the Holy Ghost begins to make much more sense.

We know that the Holy Ghost was not given while Jesus was on the earth. It was only until he was glorified that the Holy Ghost/endowment/baptism of fire was finally bestowed on his followers– on the day of Pentecost.

The Spirit of truth is not the personage of Jesus Christ.

Returning back to John 15:

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.

27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

Students of the Bible have believed that verse 27 is only referring to the fact that the apostles of Jesus have been with him from the beginning of his ministry.

Modern revelation reveals the deeper meaning of what Jesus was saying.

Section 93:

21 And now, verily I say unto you, I was in the beginning with the Father, and am the Firstborn;

22 And all those who are begotten through me are partakers of the glory of the same, and are the church of the Firstborn.

23 Ye were also in the beginning with the Father; that which is Spirit, even the Spirit of truth;

Receiving the Spirit of truth– the fulness of the Holy Ghost, the one and only Comforter– is associated with being a member of the church of the Firstborn. If my assumptions are correct, those that will receive the Spirit of truth were the ones that were with Jesus Christ, who was with the Father, in the very, very beginning…

Back to John 14:

20 At that day [that you receive the Comforter] ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

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I think whether or not someone correctly understands these passages or not, defines whether or not they really were with Jesus in the beginning, whether or not they are “of God” like Jesus was.

-G.azelem