Doctrine of Denver Conference pt. 2 “Q&A”

Denver Snuffer said in his Q&A:

Rigdon advised Joseph to build a New Testament church… and it didn’t work!

THIS IS SO PROBLEMATIC ON SO MANY LEVELS I DONT KNOW WHERE TO START

Denver believes that Joseph was wrong in restoring a New Testament church.

Holy crap.

How thick can you get?

The Snufferites reject the D&C, so I guess it makes sense.

They have rejected Section 20—how to govern The Church of Christ—for their own system of things: http://scriptures.info/Scriptures/pgp/gov_principles/

I have something to declare:

Rigdon was not in charge and did not “influence” Joseph Smith in any way.

Joseph Smith, himself, was not in charge.

God was!

The revelations that preceded forth by the mouth of God are the will of God! You cannot trade and replace it for something else.

Another thing from the Q&A that raised serious alarms was this:

Denver is against the use of “thees” and “thous” and “ye.” He thinks our scriptures should be modern sounding.

So… He is against the biblical language that enables us to use keyword searches to connect the dots between the standard works! To change the language of God’s word is so dangerous…

God’s word is meticulously designed that we may understand its entirety.

Denver has become a major stumbling block to people who want to understand the scriptures.

If you take anything Denver Snuffer says seriously, you will never understand the scriptures or Mormon history.

To believe Sidney Rigdon is to be blamed for how things in the Restoration went is beyond ridiculous.

Sidney Rigdon, unlike Dave Snuffer, was anointed by God.

This is how the Lord speaks of him and his anointed:

As many as shall come before my servants Sidney Rigdon and Joseph Smith, Jun., embracing this calling and commandment, shall be ordained and sent forth to preach the everlasting gospel among the nations— D&C 36:5

In order to preach the gospel among the nations, you must come before Sidney Rigdon and Joseph Smith.

Kind of a big deal.

Zechariah speaks of these two servants: “These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.” (Zech 4:14)

One of these anointed ones is termed “The Branch”.

The Branch prophet is to build the final temple and bear the glory. (Zech 6)

Is it any wonder that Sidney Rigdon was put in charge in dedicating the temple lot in Missouri?

The Snufferites do not read the Doctrine and Covenants, nor do they take it seriously.

They just trust Davey Snuffer. He knows what he’s doing!

Denver claims to have received the new name of David. This infers that he will be the final shepherd over the flock of God.

Here is one such example, found in Ezekiel 34:

23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.

24 And I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the Lord have spoken it.

I’m here to say that the servant David is NOT Denver Snuffer.

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First let me delve into a deep piece of doctrine. I believe that Shiloh is not the Messiah, but Sidney Rigdon.

8 ¶ Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father’s children shall bow down before thee.

9 Judah is a lion’s whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Judah has always been in the leadership positions. From the time of Moses, to Brigham Young, Judah has been the lawgiver. This is the way it will always be, until Shiloh comes, to whom the gathering will be for the dispensation of the fulness of times.

Shiloh will be from Judah.

Zechariah 8:

23 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.

Another meaning for “Shiloh” is “whose right it is”–

The D&C speaks of this.

58:22 Wherefore, be subject to the powers that be, until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet.

Remember, it is Christ speaking in the D&C, and the person who reigns whose right it is therefore is not Christ.

So Shiloh is not Christ.

It is Sidney Rigdon.

Sidney Rigdon is the root of Jesse, of pure Jewish descent. Joseph was the rod of Jesse, both Ephraim and Judah.

In Section 28, the Saints were called on a mission and told to preach to the Lamanites.

They thought it was an unsuccessful mission. But were able to preach to the Campbellite minister and his flock.

What they never realized was that Sidney Rigdon was the Lamanite they were called to preach to!

Although, keep in mind, Rigdon was not from the tribe of Manesseh… Remember, the blood of Zedekiah, king of Judah, was also in the Americas.

Rigdon was Shiloh, whose right it will be to reign!

Right now we are to be subject to the powers that control us, until he finally comes to reign.

In regards to the Root of Jesse, the Lord says in Section 113

6 Behold, thus saith the Lord, it is a descendant of Jesse, as well as of Joseph, unto whom rightly belongs the priesthood, and the keys of the kingdom, for an ensign, and for the gathering of my people in the last days.

To him will be the gathering of the people, just like Genesis 39 says!

As many as shall come before my servants Sidney Rigdon and Joseph Smith, Jun., embracing this calling and commandment, shall be ordained and sent forth to preach the everlasting gospel among the nations— D&C 36:5

John the Baptist/Elijah will overthrow the LDS church.

Joseph Smith will redeem Zion, and gather the tribes of Israel with Sidney Rigdon.

Anyone wanting to be a missionary will have to come before Joseph and Sidney, the two anointed ones that stand by the Lord of the earth.

Lastly, Genesis 39 speaks of Shiloh when the blessing is given to Judah; it also speaks of the shepherd which actually comes from Joseph!

22 ¶ Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:

23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:

24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)

This is Joseph Smith! The rod of Jesse!

Much power is given to the rod of Jesse, which is what he will need to redeem Zion. But he is not the Davidic king, whose right it is to reign. But… Genesis 39:24 says that he is a shepherd, which is what “David” is supposed to be: a shepherd to the people.

Take a look at Hosea 3:

Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

Now let’s return to Ezekiel 34:

23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.

24 And I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the Lord have spoken it.

Have you figured it out???

Sidney Rigdon is the Davidic King!

Joseph Smith is the Davidic prince, the shepherd.

The two anointed ones to stand by the Lord of the Earth. They are coming to the earth to gather the people for a witness to all nations.

And let me tell you… Sidney Rigdon is gonna have quite a word with Davey Snuffer…

-G.azelem

Doctrine of Denver Conference

Things were starting to cool off in the Mormon world.

Denver Snuffer sure keeps us bloggers busy.

The last interesting thing to happen was when DS released his ridiculous rendition of The Book of John.

Watcher destroyed it here: https://onewhoiswatching.wordpress.com/2017/03/04/the-record-of-john-the-baptist-deconstructing-the-denver-snuffer-revelation-on-st-john/

I am now going to destroy Denver’s words at his conference.

Currently, on the website, they only have the audio—no transcripts available yet—so I had to drudge through 2+ hr of audio. Denver’s voice is so boring and un-illuminating, I hope you know it took a lot of willpower to listen to it all. It’s almost as boring as General Conference.

I know the majority of my readers believe Denver to be a prophet. You guys have thick skin to keep reading my blog. I don’t mean to alienate you, and I hope you forgive me for speaking evil against your anointed.

The first bomb-shell that Denver drops during his talk is that the “fulness of the scriptures” is available.

http://scriptures.info/Scriptures

This new set of scriptures does some interesting things: it includes the Lectures on Faith (a no-brainer) and it also includes revelations by Denver himself and little bonus things that Joseph said that DS has decided to canonize.

Much like Brigham Young with Section 130, Denver Snuffer has decided to canonize the words of Joseph Smith that he never intended to canonize. Everything that Joseph revealed had to be kept in check by Sidney Rigdon. The Lord knew Joseph would speak presumptuously, which is why he gave him a spokesman, to keep him in line with the Word of God.

Joseph taught many erroneous things.

It’s a bold thing to proclaim yourself to have the same calling that Sidney Rigdon did.

Section 132—the doctrine have plural marriage—was never given to Sidney Rigdon to do his regular check-up. This is why it was never canonized. Had Sidney read it, he would have thrown it into a fire.

Denver has not removed Section 132, but has “revised” it, as Section 54. He removed the uncomfortable bits, but it proves what I’ve said time and time again: Denver believes in polygamy.

In Passing the Heavenly Gift, he wrote that by marrying Fanny Alger, Joseph completed his Abrahamic sacrifice, which gave him the sealing power. This, I of course find ridiculous.

Denver, being so full of wisdom, added something of his own into the Book of Proverbs– which makes no sense at all, since that’s the Old Testament, like seriously WTF

He says, in their scripture edition, Proverbs 10:23 “The eternal union of man and woman is a return to Eden before the Fall. The Temple and the ordinances found there are, for us, the return to Eden before the Fall and the completion of creation through the union of man and woman in an infinite covenant.”

Denver still believes in the Nauvoo temple ordinances! He is going to restore these in his new temple. http://www.thetemplefund.net/

By including his own 132, he proves that he has not changed his mind on this matter. He may play softball and say Joseph was not sleeping with his wives, but he believes Joseph was commanded by God to take multiple wives nonetheless.

[The women he married claimed to have had sex with Joseph. But they were just lying apparently.]

At the end of Snuffer’s address, he says polygamy is adultery. But he only rejects polygamy “of men;” he does not reject polygamy “of God.” Whatever is going on in “your skull”—he says, in regards to polygamy—is wrong, but what God says on the matter is something he is keeping to himself.

He believes polygamy was commanded by God as an Abrahamic sacrifice. He is going to say exactly what Brigham said…. I didn’t want to practice polygamy! It was the last thing on my mind! But the Lord commanded it, and I had to do it!

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If you take the word of God seriously, you take the calling of Sidney Rigdon seriously.

The Pearl of Great Price was canonized by apostates, not Joseph and Sidney.

Denver Snuffer, if he had the same calling as Sidney Rigdon, would have dissolved the “POGP” and separated the Book of Abraham as a singular book.

But Denver is just as bad as Brigham Young and Orson Hyde. He is canonizing things that were never meant to be canonized. This is just as bad as de-canonizing the Lectures on Faith.

The Wentworth Letter, Joseph Smith History…

Those are not scripture!

Denver’s new scriptures are a MESS.

Section 133 was supposed to be the appendices of the D&C. Denver has it listed as Section 21.

They’ve even included the ridiculous Section 126—to them, Section 167—which Brigham Young obviously made up.

*facepalm

Where was the discernment there? How did this movement not know that Section 126 was a lie of BY? Probably because they don’t have the Spirit of God.

I could go on…

Okay one last one: NO SECTION 110!!!!!!!

One of the most important and valuable revelations… REMOVED… Yike-a-rumba…

Section 110 is a no good, but the revelation on polygamy and the Nauvoo Temple ordinances are okay.

Riiiiiiiight.

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At about fifty minutes into Denver’s talk, he says that the Work of the Father has already commenced.

I have blogged about this here: https://themarvelouswork.com/2016/12/07/the-mysteries-of-the-kingdom-pt-4-the-first-trump-and-the-wheat-and-the-tares/

The Marvelous Work and a Wonder must occur FIRST.

The Work of the Father only commences once the first trumpet blows and the tares are burned.

1 Nephi 14:

17 And when the day cometh that the wrath of God is poured out upon the mother of harlots, which is the great and abominable church of all the earth, whose founder is the devil, then, at that day, the work of the Father shall commence, in preparing the way for the fulfilling of his covenants, which he hath made to his people who are of the house of Israel.

Denver Snuffer does not understand the scriptures if he believes the Work of the Father has commenced.

The Marvelous Work must occur first, to gather the wheat (Gentiles) out from the tares. Once the wrath of God/tribulation occurs, THEN the Work of the Father commences in gathering all the dispersed of Israel.

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In their “Pearls of Great Price”, Denver drops another huge bomb-shell…

On the 10 th day of September, 2011 the word of the Lord said to me, You shall no longer be called Denver, but your name shall be called David.”

!!!!!!!!

Denver has fully established his position as the Davidic servant of the end-times.

Riiiiiight.

I’ll start calling him Dave Snuffer from now on, hahaha.

-G.azelem

Houses of God pt. 6 “Far West”

My views on temples is completely different than that of nearly anyone.

I have determined that there are three types of houses of God. I’ve classified them as such:

House of God

House/Temple of God

Temple of God.

Read the series to understand how I came to these conclusions.

Houses of God pt. 1 “The Fulness of the Gospel”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-1/

Houses of God pt. 2 “Kirtland”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-2-kirtland/

Houses of God pt. 3 “Nauvoo”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-3-nauvoo/

Houses of God pt. 4 “The Redemption of Zion”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-4-the-redemption-of-zion/

Houses of God pt. 5 “The Temple of Doom”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2017/01/05/houses-of-god-pt-5-the-temple-of-doom/

[Note: I recognize the series is kinda long. I recommend reading at least part 3-5 for context.]

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In my opinion I have proven (though I changed no one’s mind) that it was the Nauvoo HOUSE that needed to be built in time before the church was rejected, and not the Nauvoo Temple.

I believe this is important, because Denver Snuffer is building a temple and not a house when a house needs to first be built in order to receive the fulness of the priesthood.

I reached out to Snufferites to challenge me, and none did.

The Anarchist of https://ldsanarchy.wordpress.com/ however took me for a fool.

He believes my contention to be laughable.

He also believes that the Nauvoo Temple was accepted by God.

I find THAT laughable. He thinks that an unfinished temple was enough to appease God.

This is what the Lord says about his houses:

Let them from that time forth labor diligently until it shall be finished, from the cornerstone thereof unto the top thereof, until there shall not anything remain that is not finished.

-Section 115:12

So to me it sounds like God isn’t interested in unfinished temples.

Joseph Smith said this: “Don’t deny revelation. If the Temple and Nauvoo House are not finished, you must run away. Our salvation depends on it.”

The Nauvoo Temple was not finished. The historical record PROVES THAT.

This is what Brigham Young said in admittance:

I met with the Council of the Twelve in the southeast corner room of the attic of the Temple. We knelt around the altar, and dedicated the building to the Most High. We asked his blessing upon our intended move to the west; also asking him to enable us some day to finish the Temple, and dedicate it to him, and we would leave it in his hands to do as he pleased; and to preserve the building as a monument to Joseph Smith. We asked the Lord to accept the labors of his servants in this land. We then left the Temple.”

Immediately after Brigham’s prayer, the temple caught fire and went up in flames.

This happened in 1846.

Even by then, they never finished the freaking temple…

The historical record shows that the apostles built a masonic temple and built themselves expensive brick houses during the time in which they should have put all efforts into the Nauvoo House and Temple.

The Nauvoo Temple was never accepted by God.

That should be sufficient to prove that the church was rejected by God by this time.

I take it a step further and say the church was rejected by 1842. I also take it another step further and say that the Nauvoo House was what was being commanded of God to build during that appointed time in Nauvoo.

My ideas make things more complicated and harder for people to digest, but they are nonetheless true. All my ideas support the fact that the masonic endowment and polygamy were ploys of Satan. My conclusions let everything fall into their proper place.

I also believe that the Nauvoo Temple was defiled by its occult symbols as well as the Moroni statue. The Kirtland House/Temple, which was accepted by God, had none of that.

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Now with all of this mind, in regards to Far West I want to mention something I’m suspecting about Section 115.

I believe that in order to understand the D&C we have to remove ourselves from the historical context of each revelation.

For instance:

The Saints believed Section 124 was referring to the Nauvoo Temple– because that’s where they were doing baptisms for the dead– and the Saints believed Section 84 was referring to the temple in Missouri, not the Kirtland House/Temple.

We have to mystically observe God’s word without using the hindsight of an apostate church!

Section 115 gives the commandment to build a House in Far West–

Or does it?

I believe Section 115 was never meant to have anything to do with Far West.

Perhaps Joseph and the Saints believed it was, but I believe it was a foreshadowing of the future.

This is speculative, and I don’t really feel like explaining it. I can’t even get people to believe anything else I’ve written about temples! Email me and I’ll entertain you:

theworkofthefather37 @ gmail . com

This is the last I will write in this series.

Perhaps I will write a part seven when I receive word that we must go to the Kirtland House/Temple for the solemn assembly as part of the marvelous work and a wonder….

Until then, yours truly:

-G.azelem

Houses of God pt. 5 “The Temple of Doom”

It’s pathetic just how excited I get about the Snufferite movement and all their ridiculous attempts to please God.

They now have a Temple Fund– on gofundme.com no less!

https://www.gofundme.com/the-temple-fund-project

Oh boy here we go…

Those following Snuffer– and yes they are following him– have some serious blind spots.

I have laid out every reason why the Snufferite movement is not God setting his hand again the second time…

I have not received a single rebuttal. The snufferites love their prophet and the fuzzys they get listening to his BS.

Denver Snuffer is Satan’s modern day masterpiece.

A polygamy preaching racist like James Harmston isn’t gonna do the trick anymore.

You need someone who claims Joseph never commited polygamy…

That’s the kind of thing that believing Mormons need to hear if they’re gonna leave the corporate LDS church.

[With that said, I don’t actually care if anyone stays or leaves the LDS church.]

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This post I am going to explain why Snuffer’s temple is BS.

Is this going to change the mind of any potential Snufferite??

Nope–

they are just like the Mormons who refuse to read anti-Mormonism because it might damage their testimonies…

But for someone like me, who years ago was torn between all the many voices in the world, I think it may prove useful.

Before reading any further, please take a look at the previous posts I’ve done about temples:

Part One: the fulness of the gospel

https://theworkofthefather.wordpress.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-1/

Part Two: Kirtland

https://theworkofthefather.wordpress.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-2-kirtland/

Part Three: Nauvoo

https://theworkofthefather.wordpress.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-3-nauvoo/

Part Four: the redemption of zion

https://theworkofthefather.wordpress.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-4-the-redemption-of-zion/

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I feel like I need to reiterate something very important that I covered in Part Three of this series.

A huge controversy in Mormondom is whether or not the church was rejected by God.

Did the Saints finish the temple in Nauvoo or did they not?

I made the case that they didn’t. But I also made the case that it was never the temple that they were commanded to build in time.

They were commanded to build the Nauvoo House! That DEFINITELY wasn’t built in time; it basically wasn’t built at all – LOL

Honestly, I am very quite proud of the series I wrote. I wrote those on my mission. It still boggles me how I was able to wrap my mind around the temple controversies.

Anyway, enough gloating.

Why is it significant that it was the House not the Temple being commanded in Section 124?

Because the Snufferites still don’t know the difference between the two!

This proves that Denver doesn’t know what he is talking about; and his attempt to build a “temple” will not be in accordance with God’s will.

I have explained the difference and meaning between the houses of God.

House of God = for ordinations to fulness of priesthood (and baptisms for dead)

House/Temple of God = for sanctification

If Denver was legit, he would be building a *House of God, not a temple, to ordain people to the fulness of the priesthood.

THEN they would build a house/temple to receive sanctification which would enable them to be in the presence of the Lord.

They should be creating a fund for both a House and a Temple to receive the fulness of the gospel.

However, Denver claims he already holds the fulness of the priesthood AND he claims he’s already seen our Lord…

What an idiot. What’s the temple even for?

Oh yeah, a stupid masonic cermony…

I’m now going to break down Section 124 in detail to prove what should be obvious.

23 And it shall be for a house for boarding, a house [the Nauvoo House] that strangers [seed of Abraham/strangers in a strange land] may come from afar to lodge therein; therefore let it be a good house, worthy of all acceptation, that the weary traveler may find health and safety while he shall contemplate the word of the Lord; and the cornerstone I have appointed for Zion.

24 This house shall be a healthful habitation if it be built unto my name, and if the governor which shall be appointed unto it shall not suffer any pollution to come upon it. It shall be holy, or the Lord your God will not dwell therein.

25 And again, verily I say unto you, let all my saints come from afar.

26 And send ye swift messengers, yea, chosen messengers, and say unto them: Come ye, with all your gold, and your silver, and your precious stones, and with all your antiquities; and with all who have knowledge of antiquities, that will come, may come, and bring the box tree, and the fir tree, and the pine tree, together with all the precious trees of the earth;

27 And with iron, with copper, and with brass, and with zinc, and with all your precious things of the earth; and build a house to my name, for the Most High to dwell therein.

28 For there is not a place found on earth that he may come to and restore again that which was lost unto you, or which he hath taken away, even the fulness of the priesthood. [still referring to the Nauvoo House!]

29 For a baptismal font there is not upon the earth, that they, my saints, may be baptized for those who are dead—

30 For this ordinance belongeth to my house, [Nauvoo House….] and cannot be acceptable to me, only in the days of your poverty, wherein ye are not able to build a house unto me. [Saints no longer in poverty; therefore, they must build the temple before performing baptisms for the dead and/or receiving the fulness of the priesthood.]

31 But I command you, all ye my saints, to build a house unto me; and I grant unto you a sufficient time to build a house unto me; and during this time your baptisms shall be acceptable unto me. [during this time regular baptisms are acceptable, NOT baptisms for the dead]

32 But behold, at the end of this appointment your baptisms for your dead shall not be acceptable unto me; and if you do not these things at the end of the appointment ye shall be rejected as a church, with your dead, saith the Lord your God.

33 For verily I say unto you, that after you have had sufficient time to build a house to me, wherein the ordinance of baptizing for the dead belongeth, and for which the same was instituted from before the foundation of the world, your baptisms for your dead cannot be acceptable unto me;

34 For therein are the keys of the holy priesthood ordained, that you may receive honor and glory.

35 And after this time, your baptisms for the dead, by those who are scattered abroad, [the future LDS church] are not acceptable unto me, saith the Lord.

Okay….

To me it is clear as day that this is the Nauvoo House not the Nauvoo Temple. There is no change of subject at any point in those verses. One more piece of evidence is verse 22, “Let my servant George, and my servant Lyman, and my servant John Snider, and others, build a house unto my name, such a one as my servant Joseph shall show unto them, upon the place which he SHALL show unto them also.”

Before Section 124 was received, they were already building the Nauvoo Temple.

The Nauvoo House needed to be shown them!

Verses 51-55 refer to the Nauvoo Temple.

Then Verse 56 goes on and talks about the Nauvoo House for another thirty verses… That’s what Section 124 teaches. What does Denver teach?

Snufferites, where are you?

Tell me where I’m wrong.

-G.azelem

False Prophets pt. 3 “Second Comforter Prophets”

I’ve been following Denver Snuffer for years now. Much of what he has written is legitimate and thoughtful. If it was anyone but him, I’d be impressed by his thoughts and ideas. However, DS claims that he has been taught by Jesus Christ.

With claims like that, there comes a greater expectation. Because of this, I have carefully scrutinized both him and his teachings. In fact, he has demanded that everyone do this. Read this:

I have never said this publicly, but because of what I think will ensue after this talk I am going to say it, not for my sake, and certainly not for the sake of anyone who believes the truth or who has the Spirit, but I say it only to benefit those who may view things completely otherwise. 9 The Lord has said to me in His own voice, “I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you.” Therefore, I want to caution those who disagree with me, to feel free, to feel absolutely free to make the case against what I say. Feel free to disagree, and make your contrary arguments. If you believe I err, then expose the error and denounce it. But take care; take care about what you say concerning me for your sake, not for mine. I live with constant criticism. I can take it. But I do not want you provoking Divine ire by unfortunately chosen words if I can persuade you against it.
–Lecture 10

Yikes.

I remember reading this on my mission, when the lectures were first transcribed onto denversnuffer.com; and I want it known that I took what he said very seriously. Everyone should– because if Denver really has been called to deliver a message from God, we of course need to heed and obey, or thus be damned instead.

Since then I have found numerous reasons to reject Denver Snuffer and thus classify him as a false prophet.

The biggest reason is this next claim of his, delivered in the same lecture as the last paragraph I’ve already included:

Thereafter, I appealed to the First Presidency, outlining the involvement of the 12 and the 70. The appeal gave notice to them all. The appeal was summarily denied. Last general conference, the entire First Presidency, the 12, the 70, and all other general authorities and auxiliaries, voted to sustain those who abused their authority in casting me out of the church. At that moment, the Lord ended all claims of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, to claim it is led by the priesthood.
–Lecture 10

According to DS, during the general conference of April 2014, all claims of priesthood in the LDS church became void. A very bold thing to say. Did this happen? He is either correct, or he is wrong. Remember, he is being tutored by Jesus Christ, and angels– so he better know what he’s talking about.

So does the LDS church still have the priesthood?

No, it doesn’t.

But this has nothing to do with Denver Snuffer.

Since 1841, the church has only held one of the three orders of priesthood. So in April 2014, there was nothing important to lose.

[The church only contains the Aaronic priesthood– until the sons of Levi AGAIN offer unto the Lord an offering of righteousness.]

Apologist’s of Denver may contest me and say that Denver was not saying that the church lost the Melchizedek or Patriarchal, but simply lost whatever priesthood it had– but that would be to deny all of Denver’s previous teachings on priesthood.

In 2009, Denver had this to say:

The Church holds the sealing power as a part of the restoration of all things… Joseph commented on three degrees of priesthood: Aaronic, Melchizedek and Patriarchal… The Church possesses and administers all three. Those who have their callings and election made sure also hold all three.
–Beloved Enos

Denver has clearly taught that the church held all three priesthoods. Once you understand the simple matter that the fulness of the priesthood was lost in 1835 to never be restored, all his points fall flat.

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Just as you can surmise the LDS teachings into one simple concept– “follow the prophet”– the same thing can be done with Denver:

“You can receive the second comforter.”

A recent development I’ve had with my own understanding of the gospel is that there is actually no such thing as a second comforter.

There is only the Comforter.

I’ve realized the whole concept of Denver’s teachings have been built on a faulty premise; and that everyone teaching or believing in a “second” Comforter have been deceived.

And yes– I know that Joseph Smith apparently did teach that there was a second Comforter, but that wouldn’t be the first thing he got wrong. I think the scriptures speak for themselves.

John 14-17 contain many marvelous and deep teachings. In my opinion, it’s there that we find the meat of the gospel.

We read in Hebrews that the meat of the gospel is only for those that have learned to discern between good and evil. Therefore, I think that anyone that misinterprets the deeper teachings of Christ, have not used the milk of the gospel to deliver themselves from doing and practicing evil. Only until someone sheds their false beliefs will they then understand the true essence of what the gospel of Jesus Christ is really saying.

I do not believe myself to be completely exempt. Even the humble followers of Christ are deceived in one way or another. I do not think I am 100% right about anything, but I do think that I have learned to discern between good and evil.

That said, I wouldn’t want anyone taking my word for anything. Same with Joseph Smith, or anyone else. We need to go back to the word of God and discover what it actually says about a given subject.

No matter what religion we grew up with, we all have been brainwashed and indoctrinated to believe falsehoods.

For instance, I never would have thought to question the concept of the second Comforter. I’ve been seriously studying the scriptures for years, but not once had it ever crossed my mind to doubt whether or not there even is a second Comforter. That’s how deeply ingrained it is in LDS thought.

Over the last few years, I’ve had to slowly peel away all the false teachings I’ve grown up with.

Here is why I reject the second Comforter, and all those that espouse it:

In John 14 we read,

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth;

Here the Comforter is referred to as the Spirit of truth. This is the “other” Comforter that people believe is not the Holy Ghost, but Jesus Christ. The reason people think that it is not the Holy Ghost, is because the word “another” is placed there. I admit that this does make it appear as though there is a distinction. However, I think the key is that the Comforter referred to in verse 16 is associated with being the Spirit of truth.

With that said, take a look at John 15:

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.

This verse does not support the second comforter doctrine. When you discard that idea, the theology behind the Holy Ghost begins to make much more sense.

We know that the Holy Ghost was not given while Jesus was on the earth. It was only until he was glorified that the Holy Ghost/endowment/baptism of fire was finally bestowed on his followers– on the day of Pentecost.

The Spirit of truth is not the personage of Jesus Christ.

Returning back to John 15:

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.

27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

Students of the Bible have believed that verse 27 is only referring to the fact that the apostles of Jesus have been with him from the beginning of his ministry.

Modern revelation reveals the deeper meaning of what Jesus was saying.

Section 93:

21 And now, verily I say unto you, I was in the beginning with the Father, and am the Firstborn;

22 And all those who are begotten through me are partakers of the glory of the same, and are the church of the Firstborn.

23 Ye were also in the beginning with the Father; that which is Spirit, even the Spirit of truth;

Receiving the Spirit of truth– the fulness of the Holy Ghost, the one and only Comforter– is associated with being a member of the church of the Firstborn. If my assumptions are correct, those that will receive the Spirit of truth were the ones that were with Jesus Christ, who was with the Father, in the very, very beginning…

Back to John 14:

20 At that day [that you receive the Comforter] ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

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I think whether or not someone correctly understands these passages or not, defines whether or not they really were with Jesus in the beginning, whether or not they are “of God” like Jesus was.

-G.azelem