Two Watchmen

Rebuttal to LDS Watchman

Original post:

https://themarvelouswork.com/2019/01/15/will-the-real-elijah-please-stand-up-redux/

Quotes taken from:

https://ldswatchman.wordpress.com/2019/02/26/a-response-to-will-the-real-elijah-please-stand-up-redux-by-g-azelem-part-1/

https://ldswatchman.wordpress.com/2019/03/02/a-response-to-will-the-real-elijah-please-stand-up-redux-by-g-azelem-part-2/

https://ldswatchman.wordpress.com/2019/03/03/a-response-to-will-the-real-elijah-please-stand-up-redux-by-g-azelem-part-3/

https://ldswatchman.wordpress.com/2019/03/09/a-response-to-will-the-real-elijah-please-stand-up-redux-by-g-azelem-part-4/

https://ldswatchman.wordpress.com/2019/03/10/a-response-to-will-the-real-elijah-please-stand-up-redux-by-g-azelem-part-5/

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Contention: “Here we see clearly that the apostasy being referred to [in Section 86] was a future apostasy not a past one. Verse 3 states after they have fallen asleep, not after they had fallen asleep.”

Response: I did not claim that the revelation referred to the initial apostasy after the first watch. I have spoken and written extensively on this subject, that the wheat and tares grow together until the harvest is fully ripe. This is clear instruction to Sidney and Joseph, providing them context as they gleaned insights during their translation of the Bible, where it surely became more and more obvious that their church would fall into apostasy. This is why they received Section 86. God implored them to continue their efforts regardless of the truth that an apostasy would occur after the second watch. They are told to, “let the wheat and tares grow together.”

Again, the revelation supports my belief that Sidney is John the Beloved—that the original apostles were the sowers of the seed, and not all of them have fallen asleep. John the Beloved was yet to fall asleep, which is why the word “have” is used and not “had.”

Contention: “In D&C 86 the Lord is speaking to future Israelites with whom the priesthood has continued since the restoration of the gospel in the 1830s. Their life and priesthood must remain until the restoration of all things. In the meantime they are to be a light to the gentiles and a savior to the Lord’s people Israel.”

Response: How can these future readers of D&C 86 be a savior in the meantime when they do not possess the priesthood necessary to save? None of us can provide the saving ordinances.

Contention: “It is these individuals who are referred to. It is not some mystic allusion to some secret hidden identity of Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon.”

Response: Perhaps it’s not. But with certainty I can refute the revelation is not targeted to us. It’s either directly to Joseph and Sidney or the original members of the Church of Christ. “Blessed are ye if ye continue in my goodness […] and through this priesthood, a savior unto my people.” The church did not continue in goodness; they departed from the Lord and lost the fulness of the priesthood, and eventually their baptisms were no longer accepted.

Contention: “Are the only weak ones who will break down the strong ones the weak saints from the 1830s and 1840s who failed to redeem Zion at that time? Do they all have to come back to earth and finish the work that was started back in the 1830s in some mystical return from the dead, which has never before happened in the scriptures?”

Response: Yes, the first labourers of the last kingdom will. They go forth, “for the last time.” (D&C 88:84) They didn’t go forth after the Kirtland Temple, because God is saving them for the marvelous work.

Contention: “The Lord knew exactly what would and would not be achieved in the 1830s and 1840s.”

Response: He did, and that’s why the revelations and prophecies indicate they must return to the earth or the word of the Lord is null and void and should not be trusted.

Contention: “Just because the Lord has promised us something individually, this does not mean that it will come to pass. All promised blessing are contingent upon us doing the Lord’s will. If we do not do what He says, He is not bound, and we have no promise. The same principle applies to the individuals given promises by the Lord in the D&C.”

Response: This paradigm suggests that Joseph Smith did not do the Lord’s will. The prophecy of 2nd Nephi 3 which outlines the role of Joseph Smith was not contingent upon anything. It will either come to pass or the Book of Mormon is a lie. The author has an issue with “unconditional” promises because apparently things can go any which way depending on man. God said of Joseph: “I will make him great in mine eyes; for he shall do my work.” He didn’t say, “And if he does my will, I will make him great; and if everybody listens to him, he will do my work.”

“That seer will the Lord bless; and they that seek to destroy him shall be confounded; for this promise, which I have obtained of the Lord, of the fruit of my loins, shall be fulfilled. Behold, I am sure of the fulfilling of this promise.” (2 Nephi 3:14)

Why can’t we have the same kind of faith that Joseph of Egypt had when God proclaimed truth?Because those seeking to destroy Joseph Smith were not confounded, this either means the Book of Mormon is a fraud or it has not yet come to pass. I believe in the Word and know that this prophecy will come to pass exactly as stated. When God’s work commences (2 Nephi 3:13), Joseph will be made strong and none will destroy him. They will not even hurt him. (3 Nephi 21:10) The Lord has spoken it.

God doesn’t make these promises because of how he thinks things will go…he knows the future; and in this case, knew that Joseph Smith would fulfill his will, which is why he provides unconditional commentary on prophetic events wherein he knows the final result.

Contention: “We must also remember that prior to the millennium, or right at the beginning of it, the righteous saints who have gone before shall descend upon the earth and the righteous saints living on the earth shall be rushed up to meet them. Surely the righteous saints from the early days of the restoration will be there and participate as prophesied. It must also be remembered that there will be a great many angels who will participate in the gathering of the elect to Zion. Surely righteous saints from the church in all ages, including the 1830s and 1840s, will be among these angels.”

Response: The gathering of elect occurs before the first trump. And the gathering is to be done by Joseph Smith who is to deliver (2 Nephi 3:9) and restore Israel (2 Nephi 3:13) alongside the first elders. If they have to wait until the first resurrection to do so, the scriptures have contradicted themselves.

Contention: “Seeing how there is no scriptural pattern for such a claim, this does not appear to be a plausible conclusion.”

Response: There is no other plausible conclusion. The marvelous work is regarded as a “strange act” (D&C 101:95) so why would there be a scriptural pattern for it? How else could it be strange?

Contention: “The Lord stated to Joseph Smith, “I will raise up unto my people a man, who shall lead them like as Moses led the children of Israel. For ye are the children of Israel, and of the seed of Abraham, and ye must needs be led out of bondage by power, and with a stretched-out arm.” […] Sounds like a future servant of the Lord to me.”

Response: Sounds like Joseph Smith to me, for God said of Joseph: “He shall be great like unto Moses […] to deliver my people, O house of Israel.” (2 Nephi 3:11) It is erroneous to suggest that D&C 101 was speaking to Joseph Smith; it was clearly to the Saints, the children of Israel. They were told that the redemption of Zion needed to come by power, a reference to Joseph Smith when he goes forth in the spirit of power to bring Israel out of captivity unto freedom. (2 Nephi 3:5)

I doubt Watchman is ignorant of 2nd Nephi 3; I suspect he believes it not to be prophecy of Joseph Smith but of another Joseph…for either Joseph returns to the earth or the prophecy is speaking of someone else. I implore the reader to decide on this matter.

Contention: “It is clear that there is absolutely no reason to declare that “John the Baptist was Elijah brought back into the flesh” or that he “was not going through a mortal probation to choose good over evil; he had already proven himself to God as Elijah!” This is total speculation and goes against the scriptures and teachings of the prophet Joseph Smith.”

Response: It is speculation on my part—but I’d love to see what scriptures I’m contradicting. Haven’t found them in my many years of intensive study, making it my mission to demolish all false doctrine in and out of the LDS church, constantly readjusting my positions once I’ve been proven wrong. How can we not speculate when the the scriptures have provided so many cryptic and mysterious passages? As we continue searching, we reevaluate and come to a greater understanding. I’m not afraid to speculate because God intentionally gave us a program that requires it.

Contention: “Joseph said that he saw Jesus Christ and God the Father in a vision in 1820. He never said that he was in their presence or that either of them were actually physically present.”

Response: I agree this is more likely.

Contention: “Paul is not in any way referring directly to Joseph and Sidney in 1 Corinthians. He is talking about the saints in his day and the saints and servants of God in all ages.”

Response: When you have a theory and encounter passages such as this, the scriptures can reveal a new meaning. I included 1 Corinthians 1:27 to showcase this. I don’t claim it to be evidence of supporting my theory but just as an indication that the scriptures can have a deeper subtext. Is this one of them? Maybe, maybe not.

Contention: “This is correct only if what is meant by Jews is the House of Israel as a whole, primarily the tribe of Ephraim, and not specifically the tribe of Judah. If the tribe of Judah is specifically being referred to, then this is not correct.”

Response: Why is the tribe of Judah excluded? When the gospel is sent to the Jews it doesn’t include Judah? Why?

Contention: “Descendants of Joseph are not gentiles. The priesthood line and birthright is through the line of the father and not the mother. Not that it matters in this case, as Joseph in Egypt did not marry a gentile woman. He married into the royal Egyptian family, who were ruling Egypt at that particular time. During that time Egypt was briefly ruled by a people called the Hyksos, who had driven out the black Egyptian rulers. The Hyksos were from Chaldea, the same place Abraham and Sarah were from. It is also the place were Isaac’s wife Rebekah was from, as well as Jacob’s wives Leah and Rachel. This is why Joseph could marry Asenath. Had she been a black Canaanite, this would have been forbidden, just as Isaac and Jacob had been forbidden to take wives from among the black Canaanites.”

Response: Firstly, I agree that priesthood is handed down by the father, but this doesn’t change the fact that the bloodline can be intermixed. The fulness of the gospel is given to the Gentiles and yet The Book of Commandments identifies the Gentiles as being of the blood of Ephraim. (D&C 64:36) So the descendants of Joseph must clearly be Gentiles either through Asenath or by mixing among the people. (Hosea 7:8)

Contention: “Joseph Smith as the lamb is a very strange interpretation of Leviticus 16 since a lamb is not mentioned. Rather it is a ram. But Joseph never said that he was going as a “ram” to the slaughter, so I guess it’s easier for G.azelem to change ram to lamb and hope nobody notices. Or perhaps he didn’t notice this himself.”

Response: The author does not know what a ram is.

Contention: “Just like with his 1st watch interpretation, G.azelem doesn’t provide an interpretation for the other metaphors such as Moses, Aaron, the Holy Place, linen garments, wilderness, etc.”

Response: I could provide an interpretation.

Contention: “I see absolutely zero parallel between Judas and Hyrum Smith. Perhaps between Judas and William Law as they were both traitors, but G.azelem can’t use William Law, because William Law wasn’t slain. Hyrum was not in any way responsible for Joseph’s death, nor was Judas slain beside Jesus as Hyrum was to Joseph.”

Response: William Law wasn’t a traitor; he was attempting to reform the church as needed. Hyrum actually was responsible for Joseph’s death because it was his idea to give themselves up and go to prison even though Joseph informed him that if they did so, they would die. It probably is too far of a stretch to make this comparison, but my actual point was to reinforce that the atonement offering of Joseph Smith was contingent upon 3rd Nephi 20-21 and not Leviticus 16, because it’s still possible to provide an interpretation that fulfills the scapegoat offering before the time of Joseph Smith.

Contention: “On the other hand, if Joseph was offering up such a sacrifice at his death it is strange that the Lord didn’t at least hint at this when he revealed to Brigham Young the reason why Joseph had to die.”

Response: Brigham Young was not a prophet.

Contention: “He [Sidney Rigdon] did not remain with the saints as the Lord commanded, he pridefully took off.”

Response: He refused to bow down to false prophets.

Contention: “Where does it state in the scriptures that people must rend the veil and see God before they are sanctified?”

Response: Of course you can’t see God before sanctification. I didn’t say this. Rending the veil of unbelief is the expression of faith needed for sanctification. And you can’t see God unless you are sanctified.

Contention: “Does being born of God mean that a person no longer sins at all? I’m not aware of this doctrine. All men sin, even the most righteous.”

Response: Not according to 1 John 3:9. All men will sin, but it is possible to stop once you have been born of God.

Contention: “Daniel did prophecy that the daily sacrifice would be taken away, but he did not say that this daily sacrifice was that of a broken heart and a contrite spirit. […] I’m curious where G.azelem gets the idea that the daily sacrifice referred to by Daniel has been take away already.”

Response: I’m curious what the Watchman thinks the daily sacrifice refers to, since he hasn’t offered a better interpretation.

Contention: “How [can he] claim that even in a time of apostasy, were the ordinances are not found on the earth, that we are still accountable for not rending the veil, after declaring that one must have the Melchizedek priesthood in order to rend the veil and see God earlier in his article? Furthermore, how does G.azelem expect us to rend the veil if the ability to offer a broken heart and a contrite spirit has been taken from us as he claims?”

Response: When we rend the veil of unbelief, then come the great and marvelous things. The great and marvelous things involve us offering a broken heart and contrite spirit within the law of consecration which is necessary in receiving the Melchizedek priesthood for a baptism of fire.

Contention: “He suffered for every sin. He felt every pain. He felt every temptation. He took our sins upon Himself, when He was slain for the sins of the world in the meridian of time. To suggest that that He still needed to experience what it was like to commit iniquity 1800 years later, is to suggest that the atonement was not fully complete when Christ was slain. This is again blasphemy.”

Response: He felt every temptation, but he did not feel the guilt of having committed sin. I understand why this can be deemed as blasphemous, but am only being open and sincere. I’m not gonna win anybody over in stating such a radical concept. I wish only to be transparent with the ramifications of what I’m suggesting.

Contention: “The “deep” in D&C 122:7 refers to the possibility of Joseph being killed by his enemies casting him into the sea, not that Joseph was going to be cast into hell.”

Response: The sea [deep] is used in scripture to be an analogy for hell. (Rev 13:1) Joseph was also informed that he could be cast into the pit, as well as having the very jaws of hell gape after him. (Section 122)

Contention: “This is all speculation and ultimately a false conclusion. We do not know that Sidney raises the ensign and therefore we do not know that he is the Root of Jesse. Sidney failed to live up to his calling in the end.”

Response: I may be wrong that Sidney is the Root of Jesse, but I believe the author is definitely wrong in judging Sidney to have not lived up to his calling.

Contention: “Here we go again with the “previous mortal probation” false doctrine. The scriptures do not anywhere state that Sidney Rigdon already held the keys of the gathering of Israel prior to joining the church, or that he held any keys prior to joining the church for that matter. G.azelem is pulling this out of thin air. The keys to the gathering of Israel were given in the Kirtland temple in 1836 (D&C 110) and not before. Those keys were given to Joseph and Oliver and not Sidney.”

Response: And yet previous to 1836 the church had authority to all nations; the keys to save Israel had already been given. (D&C 35:25)

Contention: “Actually D&C 110 says that Moses, Elias, and Elijah visited Joseph and Oliver and bestowed keys upon them. John the Baptist is not mentioned and Elias and Elijah are shown to be separate individuals.”

Response: Author ignores all evidence given by me to suggest otherwise.

Contention: “G.azelem is correct that the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham is not a downgrade. He clearly doesn’t understand what the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham really means, but by acknowledging that it is not a downgrade he is one step ahead of the other third watch bloggers in this regard.”

Response: Then let’s hear what the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham is! I’d love to hear another perspective. I don’t imagine it’s any different than what I think, but I’m all ears.

Contention: “Sidney held the keys by virtue of being one of Joseph’s councilors in the first presidency, who collectively held the keys of the kingdom with the president of the church, Joseph Smith. Clearly Joseph bestowed those keys upon Sidney and Frederick G. Williams when they were set apart as his councilors. There is zero indication that Sidney held these keys previously.”

Response: So Joseph Smith held the keys of the kingdom without the keys given in 1836? Either the keys of 1836 represent a downgrade or the church held them previously because of someone in the first presidency was already given them. Rather than providing a decent argument as to why the keys of 1836 don’t constitute the keys of the kingdom, I’m attacked for providing a theory that actually makes sense of the author’s suppositions. The “kingdom” was only given to the Saints once Sidney aligned with the church. Was this a mere coincidence? I feel like Watchman should do a post on priesthood keys so I can understand where he’s coming from.

Contention: “G.azelem is forgetting two men. Robert B. Thompson and John C. Bennett were also called to help with this proclamation.

He’s also forgetting that the Lord told Joseph to make this proclamation to the kings of the earth immediately, not four generations later.

Well, I guess we’ll have to wait and see if Sidney Rigdon, who left Nauvoo against the Lord’s command; John C. Bennett ,who was an adulterer who preyed on naïve women and wanted to murder the Lord’s prophet; and William Law who betrayed Joseph, started his own church, and later denounced the restored gospel as a fraud, will all come back and make this proclamation together with Robert Thompson acting as scribe.

If these guys will all be given a free pass for their sins, then I guess we’ll all be saved in the kingdom of heaven in the end, after perhaps being beaten by a few stripes. We might as well eat, drink, and be merry.”

Response: I wasn’t forgetting anything. The only person forgetting anything was apparently Joseph for not bothering to make the proclamation immediately. I’ve provided the author—in an email—an explanation as to why John C. Bennett will not be making the proclamation, that his assignment was conditional and not unconditional, but this makes no difference because LDS Watchman doesn’t believe there is a distinction between a conditional or unconditonal statement.

Contention: “As for the Morley farm conference. The Melchizedek priesthood was restored before that. It was restored in 1829. There were already Elders before the church was organized. Elder is an office of the Melchizedek priesthood. The Joseph Smith quote about Morley farm doesn’t say what G.azelem thinks it does.”

Response: I’ve explained this apparent discrepancy before. The office of elder is unto the high priesthood, not an office of the high priesthood.

Contention: “This is the timeline put together by Watcher, but the problem is that the Melchizedek priesthood was on earth and with the church in 1829, so the three and a half years would have ended in 1832 not 1834 as Watcher claims, and G.azelem echoes here.”

Response: The author still believes the Melchizedek priesthood was restored previous to the establishment of the church, a deluded narrative that falls to pieces and leads Mormons to reject the truth claims of the restoration movement because it is not supported and is evidence of historical revisionism.

Contention: “The third watch bloggers like to take shots at the endowment, but I have yet to find a convincing argument from them as to why they believe the endowment is from Satan and a secret combination.”

Response: I guess Moses 5:29 doesn’t ring any bells for Watchman.

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Although the main point of Watchman was to disprove my theory that individuals can die and be born again at a later time, the real issue at hand was the author’s reluctance to believe that the prophecies of Joseph Smith will fully come to pass as stated in scripture.

He has surmised: “Apparently in the eyes of the third watch bloggers God is a respecter of persons and certain individuals will receive a free pass for their sins and transgressions and be allowed to return to earth to fulfil whatever mission they were called to, which they may not have lived worthy of during their lives.”

Of course, we do not believe this, and the author is seemingly comfortable in this misalignment of our beliefs and convictions. He doesn’t think very highly of us if he thinks we’ve strayed that far from the most basic of truths. Certain individuals aren’t given a free pass. God knows who will overcome and who won’t, and this knowledge is the knowledge we go off of.

Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon will return to the earth along with the first elders. I verily know this to be true. The only thing Watchman can do is present me as having a false religious worldview where people get a free pass.

My religious worldview is a belief in God who knows the end from the beginning; and everything God says will come to pass because God has already seen it transpire. God knew that his anointed servants would accomplish his will, and that is why he prophesied of them doing things they haven’t yet done. He would not have declared them to fulfill more than they had if he knew they would fail during the first commission. He declared them to go forth for the last time (a second commission) and they will! This is very clear to me. While I sway on other issues, I do not doubt the reality of the return of the first labourers of the last kingdom.

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Notice in all five posts that there was no scriptures provided to prove that spirits can never re-enter their mortality through being born again in the womb…and thus he has unwittingly given my theory even more support. It can’t be proven false with a simple swoop.

It is commonly accepted within Mormondom that God was once a mortal man who had a god above him. This can be proven false instantly. (Isaiah 43:10-11) The scriptures can destroy false doctrine with a single scripture. That’s the power they have.

I no longer intend to explore on this blog—or elsewhere—on the subject of spirits returning to the earth and entering the womb once again to continue their ministry. I’ve compiled a vast collection of scriptures that may prove its legitimacy, but this has become irrelevant to me in respect to the current state of things. This is the time in which the watchmen do not yet see eye-to-eye. This only occurs once the Lord brings again Zion. (Isa 52:8)

I’m reminded of Alma who mused on the timeline of resurrections and yet determined: “It mattereth not; for God knoweth all these things.” (Alma 40:5)

The elders of the church who would learn the mysteries of God—most notably in Sections 76, 88, and 93—were told, “preach naught but repentance, and show not these things unto the world until it is wisdom in me.” (D&C 19:21)

Although this verse is not subject to me—for no one on earth (as far as I am aware) has been called to the ministry to preach—I feel inspired to try and follow the mandate of this verse for the time being.

The last month I have been delving into the deepest of mysteries. My findings have been incredible and have deepened my understanding of the plan of salvation on an entirely new level. I have been blessed with many insights and revelations of pure intelligence (light and truth) which is the glory of God. (D&C 93:36) This has improved my sense of discernment.

I am now embarking on compiling a list of every commandment that has proceeded forth from the mouth of God.

If we by the grace of God are called to preach repentance unto the world; or by the grace of God are ministered unto by true priesthood messengers with the call to repent—I sense we should get a head-start and know what things we need to repent of, and begin to do so immediately with deeper sorrow and humility. I suspect that I will come across commandments and prophetic words to heed that are not yet fully apparent to me.

I thank LDS Watchman for taking my post seriously and measuring it up against his understanding of the scriptures

As I have quoted numerously before, I repeat once more:

“They have all gone astray save it be a few, who are the humble followers of Christ; nevertheless, they are led, that in many instances they do err because they are taught by the precepts of men.” (2 Ne 28:14)

Until we are sanctified, we are all subject to err. I wouldn’t doubt that both Watchman and I are counted among this group Nephi speaks of. We are slowly un-learning the traditions of our fathers, and this process takes time. Yet each of us have the pure intent of seeking God, and for this we are told:

“But if from thence thou shalt seek the Lord thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul. When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the Lord thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice; (For the Lord thy God is a merciful God;) he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.” (Deut 4:29-31)

Seek, and ye shall find.

The seekers and watchers have the same goal—to please God. For now I hope to rest from debating the word and focus on how we can instead begin to live the word more fully.

Let us allow our knowledge of the scriptures to empower us in ways we haven’t yet experienced. The best is yet to come for the humble followers of Christ.

Yours truly,

-G.azelem

Will The Real Elijah Please Stand Up (redux)

“Thus saith the Lord unto you, with whom the priesthood hath continued through the lineage of your fathers— For ye are lawful heirs, according to the flesh, and have been hid from the world with Christ in God— Therefore your life and the priesthood have remained, and must needs remain through you and your lineage until the restoration of all things.” (D&C 86:9)

These words were given to Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon. We learn not only that they are descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but that their identities have been hid from the world. So who were they? The Lord did not reveal their identity during the second watch, but left behind enough clues for the elect to put the pieces together and understand their true identities. It is only until the third watch that the world will know Joseph and Sidney for who they really were when the two of them return to the earth to fulfill their ministry.

The weak things of the world are prophesied to come forth and break down the mighty and strong ones. Although the weak things were called and ordained unto this calling, as recorded in the D&C, it is evident that they did not achieve their mandate during their mortal probation in the 1800’s. Heretics such as myself can only conclude that they must return to the earth.

If you do not accept the unconditional promises and prophecies contained in The Doctrine and Covenants, I recommend you stop reading this post and do as the Lord directs in D&C 1:37.

This post is going to be a long one, so I don’t want to dwell on the scriptural precedents which have led me and others to anticipate Zion’s successful establishment by the same players who laid its foundation over 180 years ago. For more information, refer to an older post of mine: https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/09/07/lds-leadership-pt-3-the-first-elders/

The interesting thing I should mention about that post is that although I had recognized the significance of the term “arm of the Lord” I had not yet directly attributed it to a specific person. Originally I thought it to be Joseph Smith, judging by Section 103:

“Behold, I say unto you, the redemption of Zion must needs come by power; Therefore, I will raise up unto my people a man, who shall lead them like as Moses led the children of Israel. For ye are the children of Israel, and of the seed of Abraham, and ye must needs be led out of bondage by power, and with a stretched-out arm.” (verse 15-17)

It seemed clear that Joseph was the arm, but another verse seemed to fly in the face of this:

“I call upon the weak things of the world, those who are unlearned and despised, to thresh the nations by the power of my Spirit; and their arm shall be my arm.” (D&C 35:13-14)

This verse implies that the arm of the Lord is not a single individual, but manifests itself through a plurality of people. I wrongfully came to the conclusion that the first elders who will redeem Zion each represent the arm of the Lord.

I now understand that the plurality was referring to Sidney Rigdon, to which Section 35 was addressing! The arm of the Lord is both Joseph and Sidney.

My last post, “The Two Lords and the LORD,” had many inaccuracies because I failed to understand that prophecies pertain to Joseph and Sidney interchangeably. Trying to differentiate them isn’t always possible. They will have different roles and appear at different times—which I will elaborate on!—but labelling one as the Davidic king and one as the Davidic servant isn’t as simple as I thought.

What is clear is that these two are the weak things who jointly bring forth the fulness of the gospel.

Lyman Wight, to use an example, is not in the same category. Although he is one of the first elders and will return to the earth to preach the gospel—and likely participate in rending the kingdoms of the earth—he received the gospel, while it appears to me as though Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon did not actually need to receive the gospel during their probation in the second watch.

Think about it! For some odd reason, Joseph Smith was able to see God the Father in 1820 without being ordained to the Melchizedek priesthood. And for some odd reason, Sidney Rigdon had been sent forth by God to baptize people PRIOR to being united with the restored church.

Like John the Baptist, Joseph and Sidney are not part of the bride, but friends of the bridegroom/Christ. John the Baptist was deemed by Christ as more than a prophet. This is because John the Baptist was Elijah brought back into the flesh. He was not going through a mortal probation to choose good over evil; he had already proven himself to God as Elijah!

Sidney Rigdon clearly had priesthood authority if God sent him forth to baptize people before being ordained by either Joseph Smith or Olivery Cowdery. How could he have priesthood authority? He had to have received it during his first probation.

“David Patten I have taken unto myself; behold, his priesthood no man taketh from him.” (D&C 124:130)

“The keys of the kingdom shall never be taken from you, while thou art in the world, neither in the world to come.” (D&C 90:3)

The two verses above are each evidence that priesthood holders retain their priesthood and/or keys even after performing their labours and completing their time of probation.

Returning back to Lyman Wight— It was Sidney Rigdon, as a Baptist minister, who originally baptized Lyman and introduced him to the doctrines which would define early Mormonism. Sidney prepared him to receive the fulness of the gospel when it went forth by the hand of Joseph Smith. Lyman was the first to receive the Melchizedek priesthood in early June of 1831, where thereafter he parted the heavens and was able to behold God the Father and the Savior.

Lyman received the fulness of the gospel and was thus ordained to the priesthood which made it possible to see God as a member of the church of God and the bride of Christ.

D&C 84 explains that without the priesthood no man can see the face of God. Moses saw the face of God as recorded in Moses 1 which is an extension of Exodus 19. It is in Exodus 18 that Moses was given the commission by Jethro to teach the ordinances and laws unto the people (verse 20). Clearly, Jethro, as a high priest, knew the doctrine of Christ—handed down by Melchizedek—and performed the saving ordinances on Moses which enabled him to see God in the following chapter.

Joseph Smith did not have the ordinances of the gospel and yet saw God! The experiences of Joseph and Sidney have contradicted the holy word of God unless this is a result of having under gone a previous mortal probation.

If it has been accepted that Joseph and Sidney are the, “weak things of the world,” then it makes sense that Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 1:27 that the weak things of the world had already been chosen by the time Paul was writing his letters! This is because Joseph and Sidney had been foreordained to return to the earth in the second and third watches. Sidney would bring with him more keys than Joseph—but more on that later.

Those familiar with the strange history of Mormonism will no doubt be aware that Jesse Gause had originally been called in Section 81 as a counsellor to Joseph Smith in the Presidency of the High Priesthood but the appointment was short-lived due to apostasy. Instead of providing another revelation, the Lord simply replaced Jesse’s name in Section 81 and replaced it with Frederick G. Williams. What was God trying to tell us by choosing someone he knew would apostatize? I think it’s a clear sign that the third spot within the Presidency of the High Priesthood was to be filled by someone who was experiencing their first probation. In hindsight we understand that Frederick G. Williams was not foreordained the way Joseph and Sidney were. But make no mistake: Frederick is not to be cast aside as a thing of naught! Section 90 informs us that Frederick G. Williams is accounted as equal with Joseph and Sidney in holding the keys of the last kingdom.

The three of them are told: “Through your administration they may receive the word, and through their administration the word may go forth unto the ends of the earth, unto the Gentiles first, and then, behold, and lo, they shall turn unto the Jews. And then cometh the day when the arm of the Lord shall be revealed in power, convincing the nations, the heathen nations, the house of Joseph, of the gospel of their salvation.” (verse 9-10)

During the first watch, the gospel went from the Jews to the Gentiles.

During the second watch, the gospel went from the Gentiles to the Jews through the administration of those who had received the word by the administration of Joseph, Sidney, and Frederick.

At the time of the third watch, the gospel will have the most impact on the Gentiles. Section 90 makes it clear that when the arm of the Lord is revealed in power it will be unto the convincing the house of Joseph of the gospel of their salvation. The descendants of Joseph are part of the Abrahamic covenant, but are Gentiles due to the fact that Joseph likely married a Gentile woman or the prophetic remark of Jacob that the descendants of Joseph’s son Ephraim would become a multitude of nations. (Genesis 48:19)

The arm of the Lord will be revealed; and Joseph and Sidney will no longer be hid from the world. If you return back to the scripture I opened this post with, you will notice that the two of them are hidden from the world with Christ.

Not only are the two arms hidden from the world, but so is Jesus Christ. But when holy arm is made bare in the eyes of all the nations, Jesus will be found in the midst of the New Jerusalem. (3rd Nephi 21:25) Section 103 affirms that during the redemption of Zion the servants of God will be graced with the presence of not only angels but of the Lord himself. (verse 20)

If you’ve read this far and haven’t been scared off by my suppositions that Joseph and Sidney were living a second mortal probation I am sincerely impressed. It only gets crazier. I am about to suggest some radical ideas which many will find blasphemous. All I ask is for the reader to consider what I am saying. It doesn’t matter how big of a heretic you might be; and it doesn’t matter how open-minded you consider yourself— This post will perhaps be the most controversial document you’ve ever read. Simply because… it might just be true?

After taking a year off from blogging—and rarely choosing to peruse the blogs of others—I’ve returned and caught up. I decided to read through my previous 63 postings on this site, to which I was mostly impressed, but also had moments of deep embarrassment. I am prone to error and should not be trusted. If any are to come to the same conclusions as me—which I doubt (at least not until the third watch)—it will not be due to any doing on my part. The elect will uncover the truth in due time of the Lord. The mysteries of God are unfolded by the power of the Holy Ghost, not by an anonymous blogger.

The amazing thing, however, that I’ve discovered about the online Mormon community is that oftentimes in which I read something particularly profound, it is usually regarding something I’d already discovered in my own studies. To see someone else putting my thoughts and impressions into words has given me a quiet assurance that I am not alone and that I am on the right track.

There is much to be gained by sharing our personal perspectives so long as no one is claiming to be a prophet.

Even people we consider completely deluded can be of value in understanding the scriptures more fully if we try and understand their point of view and figure out at which point they erred in doctrine. One wrong turn and there’s no telling what dangerous conclusions one can arrive at based on false assumptions.

I challenge anyone who reads this—and vehemently disagrees—to point out which false assumptions I may have. I will not be discouraged, but encouraged to explain my positions better or to even rethink them entirely. I in fact dubbed this paper as a redux to the post which easily caused me the most embarrassment as I revisited my previous postings.

I was very proud of myself for having put the Elijah controversy, in my mind, to rest. Rethinking my assumptions was a difficult band-aid to rip off, but doing so will always be necessary in the search for truth.

We are not to have a “testimony” of every little thing that pops into our minds. Being dogmatic is what allowed the LDS church to transfigure almost every single doctrine of the restoration. The unwillingness of LDS members to question their beliefs has placed or kept them in a state of, “hidden darkness.” (2nd Nephi 3:5) The darkness is hidden—unapparent to them—because they wrongfully believe themselves to be living in the light of the fulness of the gospel.

The point of this tangent is to prep you for what is now to follow.

When I began this blog I was careful to shy away from delving into the atonement statute of Leviticus 16, mostly because its implications are too bizarre to comprehend let alone explain. Here I am going to dive straight in and do my very best to make as much sense as possible, God permitting.

The train of thought that has led me to write this post began five years ago when I was reading through The Book of Mormon for the first time on my mission. Although I’d read the BoM many times before, on my mission I was then reading it through the lens of someone who believed it to be an authentic record that contained the immutable and perfect word of God. Everything in it had purpose. I hung off every word and took what it said seriously to the fullest extent I could.

I suspect that most readers of the BoM shrug off the things contained in it that don’t make immediate sense to them. What doesn’t fit in with their religious worldview is attributed to wrong-doing on their part. They think the problem is them and that they aren’t understanding the scriptures correctly.

3rd Nephi chapter’s 20 and 21 speak of the marred servant who is the suffering servant of Isaiah 53, who is understood to be Jesus Christ. However, Christ speaks of the suffering servant not as himself but as a man who will declare the fulness of the gospel!

This is the greatest piece of evidence that multiple atonement’s pertain to the plan of salvation. Someone other than Christ would have their, “soul [as] an offering for sin.” (Isaiah 53:11)

Before my mission I had come across the blog onewhoiswatching.wordpress.com and familiarized myself with the controversial belief that the atonement statute of Leviticus 16 was a type and shadow of what occurred with the deaths of Joseph and Hyrum and the subsequent excommunication of Sidney Rigdon. I found the premise interesting but rejected the idea as what I deemed to be a perfect example of “looking beyond the mark.”

Little did I know that one day I would embrace the theology wholeheartedly—and even, perhaps, take it a step further.

When I realized that Christ himself spoke of the suffering servant as a separate individual I had no choice but to consider the possibility that an atonement other than the great, infinite and eternal atonement of Jesus Christ was necessary in God’s plan to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.

As Abinadi taught in Mosiah 14 and 15, Jesus Christ was indeed the suffering servant of Isaiah 53, but this relates to the first watch. When Christ came to the Nephites he declared that all things spoken by Isaiah, “have been, and shall be.” (3rd Nephi 23:3) In other words, Isaiah would be re-fulfilled.

The puzzle of Leviticus 16 is not evidence enough to prove an atonement offering was made in the latter-days, because Leviticus 16 came to fruition even in the meridian of time.

In the atonement statute, three animals are to be sacrificed while one animal remains a living sacrifice to bear the iniquity and be cast into the wilderness.

John the Baptist was the bullock, the first offering.

Judas was the goat to have its blood spilled, while John the Beloved/Revelator was clearly the scapegoat who did not die but lived in exile.

Christ, of course, was the ram/sheep/lamb who accompanies the statute as the burnt offering.

The Bible was immaculately designed to give the deceived a false impression that no further word of God is necessary. However we verily know The Book of Mormon to be an authentic work of scripture. And by believing this to be so we must come to the conclusion that a servant in the last days—who the kings of the world will shut their mouths to—will make his soul an offering for sin. Leviticus 16 therefore comes to fruition in both the first and second watch.

The suffering servant of Isaiah 53 is described as:

marred

a root

an arm of the Lord

a lamb

One can make a good case that it is Sidney Rigdon. This is because he is a root of Jesse and an arm of the Lord. The marred servant will also “declare” the marvelous work, which seems in line with Sidney’s role as the spokesman (Section 100) to declare what Joseph the seer brings forth as scripture. However, if we look at the atonement statute of Leviticus 16, Sidney is not a lamb, but a goat. He is clearly the scapegoat that does not die but is instead cast off into the wilderness. Rigdon therefore cannot be the suffering servant of the second watch because he is not the lamb of Leviticus 16.

David W. Patten was the bullock, first to die. He was martyred not unlike John the Baptist, and like John the Baptist was called to minister to the Jews as a member of the Twelve whose commission came after the Gentiles rejected the fulness of the gospel.

Hyrum was the goat. Like Judas, Hyrum chose his fate by deciding to turn himself in with Joseph to Carthage jail. And like Judas, it was Hyrum’s actions that lead to the death of the lamb.

The lamb is then Joseph; and as I’ve already established, the scapegoat is Sidney. The scapegoat is cast out of Israel into the wilderness by the hand of a “fit man” which most assuredly was Brigham Young who excommunicated Sidney and took dominion over the kingdom of the Jews.

Joseph even said that he was going to Carthage jail, “like a lamb.” (D&C 135:4)

Evidence that Joseph was offering his soul as an offering for sin is hinted at in the first verse of Section 124, where the Lord says unto Joseph, “I am well pleased with your offering […] for unto this end have I raised you up, that I might show forth my wisdom through the weak things of the earth.

The other weak thing of the earth is Sidney Rigdon—who, not surprisingly, is told in the very same revelation, “to offer an acceptable offering,” (verse 104) by remaining with the people he clearly knew to be apostate. He carried the burden of their sins when they banished him to consume their lusts and go after other gods than the God of Israel.

In the past I believed the atonement of Joseph and Sidney and others was for the terrestrial souls who refused to be sanctified by the blood of Jesus Christ and instead put their trust in their own works. The latter-day atonement was to preserve the Jews in a preparatory gospel which would enable them to receive a terrestrial glory rather than that of a telestial.

My realization that that the arm of the Lord is both Joseph and Sidney has made me reconsider this. Joseph and Sidney are extensions of the Lord, and the implications of that are too great to ignore. In Section 35, God refers to the weak things—Joseph and Sidney—as his very own arms, and that they will fight in behalf of God. “Their enemies shall be under their feet.” (verse 14)
This is reminiscent of Section 76, where God is to “subdue all enemies under his feet”—but this only occurs in the “fulness of times” when God has “perfected his work.” (verse 106)

God has not perfected his work!

Lehi speaks to his son, Jacob: “I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; for thou hast beheld that in the fulness of time he cometh to bring salvation unto men.” (2nd Nephi 2:3)

Although we can be redeemed and receive the promises of salvation during any point of time within the earth’s temporal existence, this is due to the works of God wrought in the first, second, and third watch. It appears that it is only in the third watch—the fulness of times—that God completes his work of salvation.

Before dying on the cross, Christ’s last words were, “It is finished.” But notably, Christ expounds on this in Section 19: “I partook and finished my preparations unto the children of men.” (verse 19)

Amulek prophesies that the sacrifice which is infinite and eternal will not be a sacrifice of man, implying that what differentiates Christ’s atonement from the atonement of Joseph is that Christ was not a man, he was God. Christ did not have mortal blood! (JST John 1:13) The other important thing Amulek brings up in Alma 34 is that the blood of man cannot atone for the sins of another.

The atonement of Joseph Smith was not to atone for sins, but was because of sins.

Nevertheless, God was manifesting himself through this offering to show forth his wisdom to us in hidden darkness that we may understand how to receive salvation in the dispensation of the fulness of times when it is clear that we have not been sanctified during this time of apostasy.

Ether 12:27: “And if men come unto me I will show unto them their weakness. I give unto men weakness that they may be humble; and my grace is sufficient for all men that humble themselves before me; for if they humble themselves before me, and have faith in me, then will I make weak things become strong unto them.

If we learn humility and have a saving faith in Christ, weak things will become strong unto us. And what are the weak things? Joseph and Sidney!! Our weaknesses were expertly reflected in the mortals of Joseph and Sidney.

We will not be sanctified until we exercise the same faith as the brother of Jared. (Ether 4:7) Joseph and Sidney exercised this faith but due to the iniquity of the early Saints—and all of us—the weak things were not made strong in the second watch.

When we have rended the veil of unbelief and repented of our iniquity, the weak things of the earth will fulfill their missions and bring salvation unto us, perfecting the work of God.

1 Nephi 11 explains that the condescension of God was his ministry as Jesus Christ in the meridian of time. 2nd Nephi 4 refers to this condescension as one of mercy. 2nd Nephi 9 then lets it slip that there are multiple condescension’s of God.

Section 88 teaches there are three laws: the law of mercy, the law of justice, and the law of judgment. If God’s first condescension was of mercy, does it not make sense to conclude that two more condescension’s would occur, one in the spirit of justice and another in judgment? Is Joseph Smith’s life an example of God’s justice, reflecting unto us the reality of having not accepted the law of mercy through a saving faith?

“We like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.” (Isaiah 53:6)

We have not been born of God and continue to sin, and this is a result of not coming unto Christ and accepting the mercy and grace that comes through relying wholly upon the merits of him who is mighty to save.

“If the day cometh that the power and gifts of God shall be done away among you, it shall be because of unbelief. And wo be unto the children of men if this be the case; for there shall be none that doeth good among you, no not one.” (Moroni 10:24-25)

The day prophesied of Moroni has come. We live in a time where the power and gifts of God are not on the earth, where none doeth good. We are not living under the law of mercy. The daily sacrifice of a broken heart and a contrite spirit (D&C 59) has been taken away as prophesied by Daniel.

Joseph Smith did not die that we may be forgiven of our sins. That was accomplished by Christ. However, Joseph took the justice of God upon himself by acting out our sins and dying justly for them. Isaiah 53:11 implicitly states that the marred servant will justify many. It does not state that he will bring mercy and grace.

For committing iniquity the Davidic servant was chastened by God through the stripes of men (2nd Samuel 7:14) and now resides in hell. Through those stripes we have the opportunity to be healed (Isaiah 53:5) but only once the marred servant himself is healed and once again brings salvation to the world through faith in the atoning blood of Christ.

D&C 97:2: “I, the Lord, show mercy unto all the meek, and upon all whomsoever I will, that I may be justified when I shall bring them unto judgment.

Joseph Smith has justified us that we may be converted and healed by the Lord’s mercy at a further time after having rejected him. This is particularly relevant to those of us who are very likely the descendants of the Jews who collectively crucified Christ and suffer from the curse in which our ancestors put upon us.

“His blood be on us and our children.” (Matt 27:25)

We are only free from generational curses if we seek the Lord with all of our heart and soul and are obedient to his voice. (Deut 4:29-30) Being honest with myself, I’ve concluded that I have not done this. Just as the Jews rejected Christ and the Gentiles rejected him again in the second watch, I too have rejected him. Even during our time of apostasy where the holy order and ordinances thereof are not to be found on the earth, we are still accountable for not rending the veil of our unbelief when we have a knowledge of the fulness of the gospel. It appears in Ether 12:27 that the weak things becoming strong is contingent on us having a true faith Christ.

We are not relying on Joseph and Sidney to save us. They are relying on us! “If there be no faith among the children of men God can do no miracle among them.” (Ether 12:12)

Joseph Smith took the justice of God upon himself on behalf of those that have continually rejected Christ while Joseph himself did not. Having rejected Christ’s infinite and eternal atonement, we definitively deserve the justice of God, but we have been justified by Joseph and will either humble ourselves and become meek to receive mercy, or we will be brought unto judgment.

“The life of my servant shall be in my hand; therefore they shall not hurt him, although he shall be marred because of them. Yet I will heal him, for I will show unto them that my wisdom is greater than the cunning of the devil.” (3rd Nephi 21:10)

The marring and healing of God’s anointed servant is to show forth God’s wisdom! Which is exactly what God relates when he accepts Joseph’s offering in Section 124: “I am well pleased with your offering […] for unto this end have I raised you up, that I might show forth my wisdom through the weak things of the earth.”

The 1828 Webster dictionary defines marring as, “To injure; to hurt; to impair the strength or purity of.

The purity of Joseph Smith was impaired by the atonement offering he made after the world rejected the sanctifying power he offered. Instead of being translated and leaving the corrupted vineyard behind, he made an intercession, telling the Lord of the vineyard to, “Spare it a little longer.” (Jacob 5:50)

Had Joseph and Sidney gone forth in power during the second watch to put all enemies under their feet, that would have included the entire world and nearly all of the Saints. Right now we are to, “Be subject to the powers that be, until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet.” (D&C 58:22)

Curiously, it is in that same revelation that Sidney Rigdon is assigned to consecrate and dedicate the land of Zion for the temple. Why was Sidney given this role and not Joseph? Because this is to be accomplished in the third watch, and it is in the third watch that Sidney will act as Christ/Elias as one who has been identified as an arm of the Lord.

D&C 49:6: “[Christ] will reign till he descends on the earth to put all enemies under his feet, which time is nigh at hand—”

This is clearly another condescension of God. Referring back to the 1828 Webster dictionary, the word condescension is defined as: “Voluntary descent from rank.”

Christ will reign in the heavens until he descends on the earth, and will not reign again until all enemies are subdued.

With that said, will Jesus Christ literally come down to the earth and subdue the enemies? Is not that the duty of the weak things of the earth? What if Christ condescends by virtue of the servants he has deemed as his two arms?

Section 36: “I will lay my hand upon you by the hand of my servant.” (verse 2)

This is a curious doctrine which informs us of Christ’s ability to infuse himself within a mortal to perform the functions of the priesthood. According to Section 84, Esais received the priesthood under the literal hand of God, but with Section 36 in mind it’s clear to see that the hand of God is through the indwelling of Christ in the mortal who performs the ordinance.

What is stopping Christ from indwelling inside tabernacles of flesh during other missions and ordinances?

I do not hesitate to suggest that Christ did in fact dwell in Joseph and shared in his experiences as he acted out the sins we are all responsible for. Due to God’s inability to commit sin, he would need a mortal vessel to understand what it is like to commit iniquity.

When Revelation 11 speaks of the latter-day stage for the two prophets in America, John identifies the location as, “where also our Lord was crucified.” (verse 8)

If you are of the belief that the two prophets will in fact emerge out of America and not the old world it becomes clear that John was hinting that the Lord was not only crucified in in ancient Jerusalem but again in the Jerusalem of the United States—the land surrounding that which has been designated as Zion.

Of course Joseph was not crucified, the favoured practice of the Jews, but killed by the weapons of choice which define the culture of gentile-America. To be gunned down is the contemporary equivalent of being crucified.

Due to the justice of God, Joseph was cast into hell as prophesied by God unto him in Section 122: “The very jaws of hell shall gape open the mouth wide after thee.” (verse 7) However, “He shall see of the travail of his soul.” (Isaiah 53:11)

After God chastens the Davidic servant by the rod of men we are told that God’s mercy does not depart from him. (2nd Samuel 7:15)

Joseph Smith will return to the earth to fulfill his mission. He is the angel of Revelation 7 who has been given the seal of the living God over the twelve tribes of Israel. This angel is described as ascending. Why would Joseph ascend and not descend from heaven? Because he is not in heaven and will be ascending from the deep. (D&C 122:7)

Sidney, on the other hand, will not be ascending in light of the prophecy of Section 49: “He descends on the earth to put all enemies under his feet.” (verse 6)

In the third watch, God will condescend in the person of Sidney Rigdon. After having condescended in mercy as Jesus Christ, in justice through Joseph Smith, he will once again condescend through his second arm in bringing judgment.

Section 124 prophesies that the atonement offering of Sidney Rigdon would result in him lifting up his voice on the mountains.

Isaiah 18:3 speaks of an ensign being lifted on the mountains, which is a clear reference to Sidney. He is the one to raise the ensign, which is elaborated on even further in Section 113. The Root of Jesse is, “a descendant of Jesse, as well as of Joseph, unto whom rightly belongs the priesthood, and the keys of the kingdom, for an ensign, and for the gathering of my people in the last days.” (verse 6)

Because we know Sidney raises the ensign we know that the Root of Jesse is not Joseph.

The root of Jesse holds the priesthood and keys of the kingdom by right, which is why I infer the passage, “until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet,” (D&C 58:22) to the man Sidney Rigdon, due to the undeniable evidence that he is the one to raise the ensign.

So the next question becomes: Why does Sidney have a right to the keys of kingdom and not Joseph?

This is because of their true identities as individuals who have lived through a previous mortal probation. Joseph did not receive the keys of the kingdom individually until he received them in 1836. Before that point he held them jointly with Frederick G. Williams by virtue of Sidney Rigdon within the Presidency of the High Priesthood.

It is only once Sidney Rigdon joins the church that the Saints are informed they have the kingdom! (D&C 35:27) Before stating that, two verses earlier it’s said, “Israel shall be saved in mine own due time; and by the keys which I have given shall they be led.” (verse 25)

This puzzled me, because Joseph did not receive the keys to gather Israel until Section 110, but in Section 35 those keys have apparently already been given. But that is because Sidney already held those keys!

Would he have gotten them any other way than Joseph did? I don’t think so.

The final necessary keys of the kingdom are dispensed by Moses and John the Baptist/Elijah (Elias). Although Christ ordained his apostles unto the Melchizedek priesthood, they were visited by Moses and Elias on the mount of transfiguration for reasons not made clear in the New Testament accounts.

In Section 110, Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery are visited by the same two angelic prophets, only this time we learn for what purpose. They are given the keys to gather Israel by Moses while John the Baptist commits the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham.

In the past I have assumed that the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham was a downgrade from the fulness of the gospel, but have rethought this completely. The gospel of Abraham is integral to the fulness of the gospel as it pertains to the gathering of Israel under the full authority of the keys of the kingdom.

If my assumption is correct that Moses and John the Baptist were endowing Joseph and Oliver with the same gifts they gave to Peter, James, and John, there is no reason to think the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham represents a lesser dispensation.

The Book of Abraham can be viewed in light of Section 110 to provide the clues necessary in understanding the true meaning behind the elusive gospel of Abraham. The patriarch is told, “Thou shalt be a blessing unto thy seed after thee, that in their hands they shall bear this ministry and Priesthood unto all nations; And I will bless them through thy name; for as many as receive this Gospel shall be called after thy name, and shall be accounted thy seed, and shall rise up and bless thee, as their father.” (2:9-10)

John the Baptist is Elijah who is to turn the hearts of the children to the fathers, so of course it is John the Baptist who commits the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham! But the purpose of it is to bear that ministry and priesthood unto all nations which can only be done through the keys of gathering Israel.

Remember that Section 110 carefully explains that the keys of gathering Israel were given specifically to Joseph and Oliver and the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham is only stated to have relevance to to them respectively.

Returning back to Abraham 2: “This right shall continue in thee, and in thy seed after thee […] shall all the families of the earth be blessed, even with the blessings of the Gospel, which are the blessings of salvation, even of life eternal.” (verse 11)

The Abrahamic gospel has the power to bless the nations with the blessings of salvation of life eternal! This is no preparatory gospel. The gospel of Abraham is synonymous with the fulness of the gospel. Those that received the everlasting covenant of the fulness previous to April 3rd 1836 (Section 110) did so because Sidney Rigdon already held those keys and had been given the Abrahamic commission to bear the ministry, “unto all nations.” (Abraham 2:10)

“As many as shall come before my servants Sidney Rigdon and Joseph Smith, Jun., embracing this calling and commandment, shall be ordained and set forth to preach the everlasting gospel among the nations.” (D&C 36:5)

Until Sidney entered the picture, the church did not have the commission to preach the gospel unto the nations.

Joseph and Oliver were told that their gifts to translate would, “bring to light this ministry.” (D&C 6:28)

What ministry was God referring to? The existing ministry of Sidney Rigdon which both Joseph and Oliver were not yet aware of!

Before Joseph and Oliver received the priesthood by the hand of Elijah—as promised by Moroni (D&C 2)—to organize the Church of Christ, Rigdon had already been sent forth, “even as John, to prepare the way before me, and before Elijah which should come, and thou knewest it not. Thou didst baptize by water unto repentance, but they received not the Holy Ghost.” (D&C 35:4-5) It is assumed that the reason Rigdon did not bestow the Holy Ghost is because he did not have the priesthood authority but I will show this to be false. The following verse reads: “But now I give unto thee a commandment, that thou shalt baptize by water, and they shall receive the Holy Ghost by the laying on of the hands.” (verse 6)

The Lord does not tell Sidney to first be ordained by the authority held by Joseph and Oliver. He is called immediately to begin the laying on of hands for the Holy Ghost. Edward Partridge was thereafter ordained an elder by Sidney Rigdon, even though Sidney himself was never ordained an elder as far as I am aware.

So how did Sidney have the keys of the kingdom? The only sensible explanation is to propose that Sidney Rigdon is John the Beloved, and that he received the keys from Jesus Christ, Moses, and John the Baptist.

Before I explain this I want to turn to JST John 1.

When the Jews ask John the Baptist who he is, he does not deny that he is Elijah, but confesses, “I am not the Christ,” which puzzles them. They ask, “How then art thou Elias [Elijah]?”

The Jews believed Elijah was to be the promised Messiah!

This is why John says, “He it is of whom I bear record. He is that prophet, even Elias.”

John the Baptist refers to Christ as Elias because this is how the Jews will understand. As a true prophet, he is speaking to the people according to their understanding. (2nd Nephi 31:3) This is key in solving the Elias controversy.

Christ says, “Who is Elias? Behold, this is Elias, whom I send to prepare the way before me.” (JST Matt 17:13)

Just as John the Baptist identified Christ as Elijah, Christ identifies all who prepare the way before him as Elijah. But neither are literally Elijah. Elias—the Greek translation of Elijah—is a title promulgated for feeble minds to one day comprehend that which they currently don’t.

Elias will always mean Elijah, but due to the Jews limited understanding—and our own—Elias has become slang for a preparatory servant and for the Christ of all three watches. Jesus was Elias of the first watch; Joseph Smith was Elias of the second; and Sidney Rigdon will be the Elias of the third watch. Section 77 describes the angel ascending from hell as Elias in verse 9 and then refers to John the Beloved as Elias as well in verse 14.

The Lord and his two arms are the restorer of all things. They have all been dubbed as Elias, even though none of them are Elijah as Elias implies.

Section 77: “Q. What are we to understand by the little book which was eaten by John, as mentioned in the 10th chapter of Revelation? A. We are to understand that it was a mission, and an ordinance, for him to gather the tribes of Israel; behold, this is Elias, who, as it is written, must come and restore all things.” (verse 14)

The little book eaten by John was an ordinance that tasted sweet as honey but was bitter in the belly. This is not referring to his role as the scapegoat in both the first and second watch, but as his role as Christ in the third watch. Christ drank from the bitter cup (3rd Nephi 11:11) and when God goes forth as a mighty man (Isaiah 42:13) the man in which Christ indwells will retain the memory of the bitterness Christ suffered.

Once John realizes the bitterness of the ordinance and mission given unto him, it is related to his calling to once again prophesy before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings. (Rev 10:11) Although many are prophesied to preach unto every nation, kindred, tongue, and people, Sidney Rigdon was given a direct commission unto the kings of the earth in Section 124:107 alongside the marred servant (and William Law who will be another great man of the last kingdom).

In Sidney’s patriarchal blessing he is told, “Thou shalt receive an ordination not many days hence which shall surpass all human understanding.” Clearly, Joseph Smith Sen. was filled with the spirit of prophecy! This ordination must have been the mysterious ordinance mentioned in Section 77:14. Christ had to have ordained Sidney—most likely through the instrumentality of Joseph—to be the Christ of the third watch.

If Sidney Rigdon is in fact John the Beloved who restores all things and holds the keys of the kingdom why is Joseph Smith necessary at all? The Rod of Jesse does not have nearly as many qualifications as the Root of Jesse. (D&C 113) The difference between the Rod and the Root is that the Rod is of Ephraim.

Joseph’s mixed lineage of Judah and Ephraim is what makes him entirely necessary.

The apostles asked Jesus after his resurrection, “Wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?” (Acts 1:6) Jesus responded that it was not for them to know the time in which he would do so.

What the apostles understood was that they were descendants of Judah, Levi, and Benjamin—the tribes of the southern kingdom of Judah—and that the keys of the kingdom, which they held, would need to be shared with someone of Ephraim—of the northern kingdom of Israel—according to the words of the prophets.

“For there shall be a day, that the watchmen upon the Mount Ephraim shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the Lord our God. […] They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them. […] For I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my first born.” (Jeremiah 31:6-9)

Jacob prophesied that all the tribes of Israel would bow down to the fruit of the loins of Joseph from generation to generation. (JST Genesis 48:10) The apostles knew that a second act needed to take place in which the keys of the kingdom were to be given unto Ephraim. Joseph Smith, a descendant of Ephraim, received these keys, and this is why he holds the seal of the living God over the twelve tribes of Israel, because they are to bow down unto him.

Jacob tells his son Joseph, “For thou shalt be a light unto my people, to deliver them in the days of their captivity, from bondage; and to bring salvation unto them, when they are altogether bowed down under sin.” (JST Genesis 48:11)

This is the role of Joseph Smith, who brings the righteous branch of Israel, “out of darkness unto light—yea, out of hidden darkness and out of captivity unto freedom.” (2nd Nephi 3:5)

Joseph Smith is Joseph of Egypt. Understanding Joseph to be the servant of the vineyard in Jacob 5 indicates that his ministry began long before the first watch, when the wild olive trees (Gentiles) were first grafted into the olive tree of Israel. Joseph Smith did this as Joseph of Egypt by marrying a Gentile woman.

Joseph brings salvation unto men, and began this by first bringing to light an existing ministry, even that of Sidney Rigdon. Sidney is therefore synonymous with salvation. I will also show he represents the kingdom of God and is the embodiment of the new and everlasting covenant.

“I have sent mine everlasting covenant into the world, to be a light to the world, and to be a standard for my people, and for the Gentiles to seek to it, and to be a messenger before my face to prepare the way before me.” (D&C 45:9)

I’ve incorrectly interpreted that passage to refer to Joseph (https://themarvelouswork.com/2017/01/10/the-prophet-pt-1-the-new-and-everlasting-covenant/) but Section 35 makes it clear that it was Sidney who was sent forth, “to prepare the way before me.” (verse 4)

Between Isaiah 11:1 and 41:6 we have all the keywords of Section 45 as it pertains to the Root of Jesse. He is a covenant, a light, a standard, and when he raises the ensign the Gentiles will seek after it.

Although Sidney was sent as John, an Elias-preparer, to prepare the way for Joseph, the Christ/Elias-restorer, in the third watch Joseph is the Elias-preparer to prepare the way for Sidney the Christ/Elias-restorer.

2nd Nephi 2:3: “In the fulness of time he cometh to bring salvation unto men.”

With all of this in mind, in closing let’s turn to Revelation 12 via the Joseph Smith Translation.

This chapter has been endlessly contested and usually raises more questions than provides answers. But with everything I’ve come to realize and now presented in this post, I find the chapter to read smoother than ever before.

Through the lens of the KJV Bible it makes the most sense to interpret the woman travailing in birth as Israel and the child she brings forth as Jesus Christ. But the JST says the woman is the church of God. (verse 7) How could the church of God exist and bring forth Christ when it is Christ who should be bringing forth the church? Therefore, the man-child born of the church is not Jesus. In fact, the text never explicitly purports this. The man-child is said to one day, “rule all nations with a rod of iron,” but is, “caught up unto God and his throne.” (verse 3) The rod of iron, according to 1 Nephi 11:25, is the word of God, and the word of God is Jesus in the flesh. (JST John 1:16)

If you believe the child to be Jesus, verse 3 of JST Rev 12 would then read: And she brought forth Jesus Christ who was to rule all nations with Jesus Christ.

So who could the man-child be?

It has to be John the Beloved, a member of the church of God who was caught up to heaven and did not experience death until the second watch. Jesus remarked cryptically that John would not taste of death until he saw the Son of Man coming in his kingdom. (Mathew 16:28)

John did see the Son of Man [as Joseph Smith] coming in his [John’s/Sidney’s] kingdom before he tasted of death! Keep in mind that the man-child is also referred to as the kingdom of God. (verse 8)

JST Revelation 12:1-5 relates to the first watch. Thereafter, the war in heaven occurs.

Section 50 purports that false spirits have gone forth in the earth, (verse 2) but it is only until Section 52 that we learn that Satan himself is abroad in the land! (verse 14)

This is because Satan was cast down to the earth during the Morley Farm conference which ended the day before Section 52 was given. It was during this conference that Joseph reported, “The man of sin was revealed, and the authority of the melechisedec priesthood was manifested and I conferred, the high priesthood for the first time, upon several of the elders.”

When Satan is cast down to the earth in JST Rev 12:8, the following verse says, “Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ.”

The blessings of salvation that accompany the kingdom of God return to the earth on the same day that Satan is cast down! Also keep in mind that the woman is the “church of God” and not the Church of Christ. The Church of God emerged on the earth with the restoration of the Melchizedek priesthood and it is only this church which offers sanctification.

“When the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman [the Church of God] which [had] brought forth the man-child [in the first watch]. Therefore, to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might flee into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.” (13-14)

The Church of God was nourished for a time, and times, and half a time—or in other words, three and a half years—from the face of the serpent. Forty-two months after salvation came through the Melchizedek priesthood, the Saints broke the new and everlasting covenant. The fulness of the priesthood, in which the Church of God operates, was lost from the earth and Satan overcame the Saints.

“They received not the love of truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.” (2 Thess 2:10-11)

“ And now if this generation do harden their hearts against my word, behold I will deliver them up unto Satan.” (Book of Commandments 4:6)

Before the Second Coming, “there shall come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God shewing himself that he is God.” (JST 2 Thess 2:3-4)

Section 38 informs the church that the enemy is combined with the Saints and that a plan against them, “is had in secret chambers,” to bring to pass their destruction. (verse 13) Brigham Young was intimately involved with Masonry before uniting himself with the restored church. Did a secret combination involve Brigham working his way up the ranks of Mormonism until he took complete control?

Brigham Young would administer the masonic endowment unto the church membership in the corrupted Nauvoo temple. During this ceremony, Brigham would position himself in the role of God. Those initiated into the ceremony are told by Satan, “If they do not walk up to every covenant they make at these altars in this temple this day, they will be in my power!”

Regardless as to how sinister or oblivious Brigham was, the fact remains: God had delivered his people over to Satan. Without the sanctifying power of Christ’s authority, no one will be able to keep the commandments; and thus all who have entered into the covenants made in secret chambers are under the power of Satan.

“When ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you.” (Ether 8:24)

Awakening to a sense of this awful situation is the first step in removing oneself from the false traditions of our fathers. The next step is to learn the true nature of God, and thus begin to exercise a true faith in Christ which will bring about the miracles and works of God that will usher in the fulness of times and the redemption of Zion.

-G.azelem

If I Were a Prophet pt. 4 “Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj”

Some years ago, I had a prejudice against mainstream Christianity.

I considered them all fools, and that Mormonism was a huge leap ahead of them.

Once I realized the apostasy of the LDS church, I reconsidered my prejudice and began accepting truth wherever I found it.

On my mission, someone gave me four books written by William Branham, a self-proclaimed prophet from the South who died in 1965.

I devoured those books and came to a stunning conclusion:

Branham was more inspired than any of the General Authorities.

Was Branham a true prophet?

No. In many areas he fell short. He was not a prophet. But reading his sermons taught me more about God’s word than a lifetime in the Mormon church had. Branham pointed to the scriptures and wasn’t afraid to make claims of Thus saith the Lord…

The General Authorities are afraid to take any risks.

After 9/11, Gordon B. Hinckley could say nothing but that he, “didn’t know” what the future held in store.

Just imagine if people actually started taking the Mormon church seriously… If they tuned in to General Conference, hoping to hear the words of God through an anointed prophet…

What would they hear?

Nothing of value. The “prophets” of the LDS church bring NOTHING to the table.

In part two of this series, I covered the prophecies of a man named John Johnson.

https://themarvelouswork.com/2017/01/29/if-i-were-a-prophet-pt-2-john-johnson/

Johnson had the balls to make prophecies, and they came to pass as he said they would.

I’ve come across many Christians who claim to have the spirit of prophecy. Many of these individuals, I believe, are inspired of God.

Another example of an inspired Christian is a man from India, Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj. Like Johnson, Sadhu has the balls to prophesy.

On August 10th, 2016, MONTHS before the election, Sadhu claimed to have had a vision in which he was told by a Council in Heaven that Donald Trump would be president.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHN16P0LTnY

He didn’t softball it; he proclaimed it emphatically.

There was no and’s or if’s about it–

Sadhu risked his entire ministry. If Trump was not elected, he would be forever branded a false prophet. This is a mark of sincerity. He truly believed he had a vision. If it never came to pass, he would recognize the error of his ways and humbly submit that he had been deceived.

Yet I do not believe Sadhu to be an annointed prophet.

All I believe is that he is inspired. For instance, he understands that the rapture occurs mid-tribulation. Furthermore, he teaches that the first harvest of raptured Saints will return and assist the church through the rest of the tribulation–

This stuff is light years ahead of what Mormons think and believe in regards to the last days.

In my opinion, disciples of Christ are better off believing Sadhu to be a prophet, rather than to believe that the LDS church is the kingdom of God upon the earth.

A test I’ve practiced in trying to find inspired Christians is to see whether or not they slam Joseph Smith.

William Branham said Joseph Smith was a fine man, but that he taught falsehoods about God (King Follet sermon).

A fine man???

For a Christian to look past Joseph’s 30+ wives and call him a fine man says something.

The spirit inside them somehow knows he was not a servant of Satan.

They cannot accept his false teachings, yet they never speak out against him.

Here is what William Branham had to say about Joseph Smith:

Now, they may be present, some Mormon brethren or sisters, and they may be some get these tapes now. And I don’t want to say that… Some of the finest people I–you would want to meet would be–be in the Mormon people, very fine type of people; and then their–their prophet, Joseph Smith, that the Methodist people killed here in Illinois, on their journey over… And so then that–that fine man… And the vision, I don’t doubt at all but what he had the vision. I believe he’s a sincere man, but the vision he had was contrary to the Scripture;

To me this is quite profound.

Only the Spirit can teach someone that Joseph Smith was sincere.

Secular history proves without a doubt that Joseph was a fraud.

Only someone inspired by the Spirit will defend Joseph.

Someone REALLY inspired will defend Joseph’s revelations, and renounce his controversial Nauvoo ministry.

Someone really inspired will teach that Joseph was a fallen prophet, that he stopped abiding in the Lord after receiving Section 124.

But they will not hold him accountable.

They will teach that this was according to the providence of God.

Only the elect will understand the scriptures. If Joseph Smith had a squeaky clean record, there wouldn’t be a test.

God made it easy for the world to reject Joseph Smith.

In my last post, I recanted what Christ said about his followers:

My sheep hear my voice.

Those that recognize the word of God for what it is are the sheep of Jesus Christ.

It doesn’t matter where it comes from… Or who it comes from… Christ’s sheep know the truth! The truth which defies logic and mortal understanding. The truth which cannot be proven by secular history.

-G.azelem

Doctrine of Denver Conference pt. 2 “Q&A”

Denver Snuffer said in his Q&A:

Rigdon advised Joseph to build a New Testament church… and it didn’t work!

THIS IS SO PROBLEMATIC ON SO MANY LEVELS I DONT KNOW WHERE TO START

Denver believes that Joseph was wrong in restoring a New Testament church.

Holy crap.

How thick can you get?

The Snufferites reject the D&C, so I guess it makes sense.

They have rejected Section 20—how to govern The Church of Christ—for their own system of things: http://scriptures.info/Scriptures/pgp/gov_principles/

I have something to declare:

Rigdon was not in charge and did not “influence” Joseph Smith in any way.

Joseph Smith, himself, was not in charge.

God was!

The revelations that preceded forth by the mouth of God are the will of God! You cannot trade and replace it for something else.

Another thing from the Q&A that raised serious alarms was this:

Denver is against the use of “thees” and “thous” and “ye.” He thinks our scriptures should be modern sounding.

So… He is against the biblical language that enables us to use keyword searches to connect the dots between the standard works! To change the language of God’s word is so dangerous…

God’s word is meticulously designed that we may understand its entirety.

Denver has become a major stumbling block to people who want to understand the scriptures.

If you take anything Denver Snuffer says seriously, you will never understand the scriptures or Mormon history.

To believe Sidney Rigdon is to be blamed for how things in the Restoration went is beyond ridiculous.

Sidney Rigdon, unlike Dave Snuffer, was anointed by God.

This is how the Lord speaks of him and his anointed:

As many as shall come before my servants Sidney Rigdon and Joseph Smith, Jun., embracing this calling and commandment, shall be ordained and sent forth to preach the everlasting gospel among the nations— D&C 36:5

In order to preach the gospel among the nations, you must come before Sidney Rigdon and Joseph Smith.

Kind of a big deal.

Zechariah speaks of these two servants: “These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.” (Zech 4:14)

One of these anointed ones is termed “The Branch”.

The Branch prophet is to build the final temple and bear the glory. (Zech 6)

Is it any wonder that Sidney Rigdon was put in charge in dedicating the temple lot in Missouri?

The Snufferites do not read the Doctrine and Covenants, nor do they take it seriously.

They just trust Davey Snuffer. He knows what he’s doing!

Denver claims to have received the new name of David. This infers that he will be the final shepherd over the flock of God.

Here is one such example, found in Ezekiel 34:

23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.

24 And I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the Lord have spoken it.

I’m here to say that the servant David is NOT Denver Snuffer.

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First let me delve into a deep piece of doctrine. I believe that Shiloh is not the Messiah, but Sidney Rigdon.

8 ¶ Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father’s children shall bow down before thee.

9 Judah is a lion’s whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Judah has always been in the leadership positions. From the time of Moses, to Brigham Young, Judah has been the lawgiver. This is the way it will always be, until Shiloh comes, to whom the gathering will be for the dispensation of the fulness of times.

Shiloh will be from Judah.

Zechariah 8:

23 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.

Another meaning for “Shiloh” is “whose right it is”–

The D&C speaks of this.

58:22 Wherefore, be subject to the powers that be, until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet.

Remember, it is Christ speaking in the D&C, and the person who reigns whose right it is therefore is not Christ.

So Shiloh is not Christ.

It is Sidney Rigdon.

Sidney Rigdon is the root of Jesse, of pure Jewish descent. Joseph was the rod of Jesse, both Ephraim and Judah.

In Section 28, the Saints were called on a mission and told to preach to the Lamanites.

They thought it was an unsuccessful mission. But were able to preach to the Campbellite minister and his flock.

What they never realized was that Sidney Rigdon was the Lamanite they were called to preach to!

Although, keep in mind, Rigdon was not from the tribe of Manesseh… Remember, the blood of Zedekiah, king of Judah, was also in the Americas.

Rigdon was Shiloh, whose right it will be to reign!

Right now we are to be subject to the powers that control us, until he finally comes to reign.

In regards to the Root of Jesse, the Lord says in Section 113

6 Behold, thus saith the Lord, it is a descendant of Jesse, as well as of Joseph, unto whom rightly belongs the priesthood, and the keys of the kingdom, for an ensign, and for the gathering of my people in the last days.

To him will be the gathering of the people, just like Genesis 39 says!

As many as shall come before my servants Sidney Rigdon and Joseph Smith, Jun., embracing this calling and commandment, shall be ordained and sent forth to preach the everlasting gospel among the nations— D&C 36:5

John the Baptist/Elijah will overthrow the LDS church.

Joseph Smith will redeem Zion, and gather the tribes of Israel with Sidney Rigdon.

Anyone wanting to be a missionary will have to come before Joseph and Sidney, the two anointed ones that stand by the Lord of the earth.

Lastly, Genesis 39 speaks of Shiloh when the blessing is given to Judah; it also speaks of the shepherd which actually comes from Joseph!

22 ¶ Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:

23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:

24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)

This is Joseph Smith! The rod of Jesse!

Much power is given to the rod of Jesse, which is what he will need to redeem Zion. But he is not the Davidic king, whose right it is to reign. But… Genesis 39:24 says that he is a shepherd, which is what “David” is supposed to be: a shepherd to the people.

Take a look at Hosea 3:

Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

Now let’s return to Ezekiel 34:

23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.

24 And I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the Lord have spoken it.

Have you figured it out???

Sidney Rigdon is the Davidic King!

Joseph Smith is the Davidic prince, the shepherd.

The two anointed ones to stand by the Lord of the Earth. They are coming to the earth to gather the people for a witness to all nations.

And let me tell you… Sidney Rigdon is gonna have quite a word with Davey Snuffer…

-G.azelem

The Two Seed-lines

In my 2nd post about The Book of Enoch, I documented a controversial doctrine.

https://themarvelouswork.com/2017/01/17/enoch-pt-2-the-slavic-book-of-enoch/

I made the outlandish remark that Eve had sexual relations with Satan, which is what led to the birth of the evil Cain.

I believe that there was two seed-lines: a seed of Adam, and a seed of Cain. Today I believe those lines have now intermixed, and we have both the DNA of God (which Adam had) and the DNA of Satan (which Cain had.)

Today I found another piece of evidence of this.

I was reading “The Targum” which is one of the oldest manuscripts of the Old Testament.

Read about it here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targum

Now dwell upon a passage contained therein:

And Adam knew Hava his wife, who had desired the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Kain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the Angel of the Lord. And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, even Habel.”

This even makes scientific sense.

It is proven that women can have twins with different fathers.

https://www.babycenter.com/0_strange-but-true-twins-can-have-different-fathers_10364945.bc

We have the DNA of Satan until we are reborn of the Spirit.

-G.azelem

Houses of God pt. 6 “Far West”

My views on temples is completely different than that of nearly anyone.

I have determined that there are three types of houses of God. I’ve classified them as such:

House of God

House/Temple of God

Temple of God.

Read the series to understand how I came to these conclusions.

Houses of God pt. 1 “The Fulness of the Gospel”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-1/

Houses of God pt. 2 “Kirtland”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-2-kirtland/

Houses of God pt. 3 “Nauvoo”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-3-nauvoo/

Houses of God pt. 4 “The Redemption of Zion”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-4-the-redemption-of-zion/

Houses of God pt. 5 “The Temple of Doom”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2017/01/05/houses-of-god-pt-5-the-temple-of-doom/

[Note: I recognize the series is kinda long. I recommend reading at least part 3-5 for context.]

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In my opinion I have proven (though I changed no one’s mind) that it was the Nauvoo HOUSE that needed to be built in time before the church was rejected, and not the Nauvoo Temple.

I believe this is important, because Denver Snuffer is building a temple and not a house when a house needs to first be built in order to receive the fulness of the priesthood.

I reached out to Snufferites to challenge me, and none did.

The Anarchist of https://ldsanarchy.wordpress.com/ however took me for a fool.

He believes my contention to be laughable.

He also believes that the Nauvoo Temple was accepted by God.

I find THAT laughable. He thinks that an unfinished temple was enough to appease God.

This is what the Lord says about his houses:

Let them from that time forth labor diligently until it shall be finished, from the cornerstone thereof unto the top thereof, until there shall not anything remain that is not finished.

-Section 115:12

So to me it sounds like God isn’t interested in unfinished temples.

Joseph Smith said this: “Don’t deny revelation. If the Temple and Nauvoo House are not finished, you must run away. Our salvation depends on it.”

The Nauvoo Temple was not finished. The historical record PROVES THAT.

This is what Brigham Young said in admittance:

I met with the Council of the Twelve in the southeast corner room of the attic of the Temple. We knelt around the altar, and dedicated the building to the Most High. We asked his blessing upon our intended move to the west; also asking him to enable us some day to finish the Temple, and dedicate it to him, and we would leave it in his hands to do as he pleased; and to preserve the building as a monument to Joseph Smith. We asked the Lord to accept the labors of his servants in this land. We then left the Temple.”

Immediately after Brigham’s prayer, the temple caught fire and went up in flames.

This happened in 1846.

Even by then, they never finished the freaking temple…

The historical record shows that the apostles built a masonic temple and built themselves expensive brick houses during the time in which they should have put all efforts into the Nauvoo House and Temple.

The Nauvoo Temple was never accepted by God.

That should be sufficient to prove that the church was rejected by God by this time.

I take it a step further and say the church was rejected by 1842. I also take it another step further and say that the Nauvoo House was what was being commanded of God to build during that appointed time in Nauvoo.

My ideas make things more complicated and harder for people to digest, but they are nonetheless true. All my ideas support the fact that the masonic endowment and polygamy were ploys of Satan. My conclusions let everything fall into their proper place.

I also believe that the Nauvoo Temple was defiled by its occult symbols as well as the Moroni statue. The Kirtland House/Temple, which was accepted by God, had none of that.

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Now with all of this mind, in regards to Far West I want to mention something I’m suspecting about Section 115.

I believe that in order to understand the D&C we have to remove ourselves from the historical context of each revelation.

For instance:

The Saints believed Section 124 was referring to the Nauvoo Temple– because that’s where they were doing baptisms for the dead– and the Saints believed Section 84 was referring to the temple in Missouri, not the Kirtland House/Temple.

We have to mystically observe God’s word without using the hindsight of an apostate church!

Section 115 gives the commandment to build a House in Far West–

Or does it?

I believe Section 115 was never meant to have anything to do with Far West.

Perhaps Joseph and the Saints believed it was, but I believe it was a foreshadowing of the future.

This is speculative, and I don’t really feel like explaining it. I can’t even get people to believe anything else I’ve written about temples! Email me and I’ll entertain you:

theworkofthefather37 @ gmail . com

This is the last I will write in this series.

Perhaps I will write a part seven when I receive word that we must go to the Kirtland House/Temple for the solemn assembly as part of the marvelous work and a wonder….

Until then, yours truly:

-G.azelem

The Prophet pt. 4 “The Suffering Servant”

The LDS church is not the church that Joseph Smith restored in 1831.

The church today is simply a kingdom. The Kingdom of the Jews to be exact. The LDS church has been playing pretend for 170 years, masquerading the offices that Joseph put in place.

There was never meant to be string of successive prophets. This diminishes the role of Joseph Smith.

Joseph’s role in the last days is just as important as the role of Jesus Christ in the meridian of time. I say that boldly. Those with sensitive understanding might think I’m being blasphemous, but hear me out…

When the Lord came to the earth in the New Testament, he said, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Mathew 15:24

Christ ministered unto the Jews which would reject him.

Joseph Smith ministered to the Gentiles who would reject him.

Christ lived a perfect life; Joseph Smith lived a sinner’s life.

Joseph was the inversion of Christ, the Lord.

All of this is part of the glorious plan of salvation to bring about the immortality and eternal life of man—

After Christ ascended to heaven, the gospel went to the Gentiles. After Joseph Smith fell from his station as True Prophet, the gospel went to the Jews.

I explained this in one of my very old posts: https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/08/17/nephi-prophecy-pt-4-a-delightsome-people/

The LDS church is the House of Israel, the Kingdom of the Jews.

John the Baptist/Elijah is going to return to the earth to overthrow it and make the paths of the Lord straight.

The New and Everlasting Covenant will finally be established for BOTH the Gentiles AND the Jews.

As Christ performed an atonement, so did Joseph Smith.

A literal reading of Isaiah proves that the “marred” servant is the same as the suffering servant.

If you believe in the Book of Mormon, that Joseph is the marred servant who declared the fulness of the gospel to the world, then you believe he is also the suffering servant who performed an atonement.

His atonement was an inversion of the atonement of Christ.

There is only a handful of people that believe this.

Are you one of them?

When I first heard of this idea, I thought it was just crazy, a theory devised by someone with too much time on their hands. However, I read the Old Testament and discovered its scriptural truth.

Joseph Smith was prophesied in 2nd Nephi 3 to be one like unto Moses.

What did Moses accomplish? He gave up his life and status before God, in order for the Jews to not be wiped off the earth!!

Psalm 106:

23 Therefore he said that he would destroy them, had not Moses his chosen stood before him in the breach, to turn away his wrath, lest he should destroy them.

Moses and Joseph are the ones that took the wrath of God instead of their people.

When the church fell into apostasy late 1834, Joseph stood in the breach and took the wrath of God instead of his people. To do this, Joseph had to commit sin.

If he hadn’t, the curse would have gone forth and destroyed the Saints instead of Joseph.

I recommend reading this article:

https://onewhoiswatching.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/three-chapters-on-the-intercessory-atonement-offering.pdf

Not many people will believe or even fully understand the atonement offering of Joseph Smith; and that’s okay.

For now.

These deep spiritual truths are slowly being digested by the elect of God. Soon enough we will see eye-to-eye.

-G.azelem

The Prophet pt. 2 “even that prophet shall die”

Another piece of evidence that proves that Joseph Smith was prophesied of by biblical prophets and expected of the Jews, is in the first chapter of the Gospel according to St. John.

The Jews approach John the Baptist and ask if he is Elijah or the Christ.

He says that he is not the Christ, but confesses, and denies not. He confesses that he is not THE Christ, but denies not that he is a christ (annointed).

They ask if he’s Elijah – he says he isn’t. Then they ask if he’s “that prophet”… And he answers no to that as well.

Is “that prophet” Elijah? I do not believe so.

I believe the Jews are asking three things:

Are you the Christ?

Are you Elijah?

Are you that prophet?

I believe “that prophet” is no other than Joseph Smith!

Please read John 1 and think that through for yourself. I believe that exchange of dialogue is talking about three individuals. Read it for yourself and decide. Also check the JST on it.

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In Deuteronomy 18 we read the beautiful prophecy about Jesus Christ. What most people don’t realize is that there is ANOTHER prophecy two verses ahead that are speaking about the prophet Joseph.

Let’s read:

15 ¶The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

Joseph Smith?

No.

The Book of Mormon says the exact same thing in Nephi 22:

20 And the Lord will surely prepare a way for his people, unto the fulfilling of the words of Moses, which he spake, saying: A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass that all those who will not hear that prophet shall be cut off from among the people.

21 And now I, Nephi, declare unto you, that this prophet of whom Moses spake was the Holy One of Israel; wherefore, he shall execute judgment in righteousness.

This is the Holy One of Israel, Jesus Christ, that Moses spoke of in Deuteronomy 18:15

He is RAISED UP in the midst of Israel, though he himself is not one of the brethren of mankind.

A couple verses later, Moses strangely reiterates what he’s just said, except with some significant changes in wording:

18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

Why did Moses seem to repeat himself?

And why did he repeat himself with distinct changes in wording…

Because he is not speaking of Jesus Christ anymore, he is speaking of Joseph Smith.

Here is the difference between the Christ, and “that prophet”:

among the brethren (human!)

words put in his mouth (receives revelation)

The Christ in verse 15 does not have God’s words PUT into his mouth. We are told to simply hearken to EVERYTHING that the Christ says. It is “that prophet” who is given words from God to say.

If you’re not convinced, let’s continue to learn more about “that prophet” who is among the Jews…

19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

Now all you need to do is read the King Follet Sermon and see what happened to Joseph Smith a month later.

Joseph Smith was a prophet who spoke the words of God– the words PUT in his mouth– but when he stopped receiving revelation post-1841, he began to speak presumptuously, speaking after other gods than the one true God of heaven and earth.

Once that happened… “even that prophet shall die”

-G.azelem

False Prophets pt. 1 “Denver Snuffer”

D&C 50:2

There are many spirits which are false spirits, which have gone forth in the earth, deceiving the world.

A peculiar quote from Joseph Smith was the idea that every religious tradition has its own distinct spirit that follows it. The Denver Snuffer movement has a very powerful one, and it’s growing stronger and stronger. Evidence for this is found here: http://latterdaywitnesses.com/interview-with-robert-smith-shares-his-life-journey-and-witness-of-christ/

Just as Denver Snuffer saw a false Christ, others are as well now. It used to be only a few individuals, but it’s becoming more and more common. I used to consider DS harmless, but his claims are too bold to continue to ignore. His influence and false-accompanying-spirit is picking up too much traction.

After publishing The Second Comforter, Denver Snuffer has tried to appeal his message to several different groups of people:

First, he went for completely active, Brethren-friendly, LDS members. He did this with his books, “Beloved Enos”, and “Come, Let Us Adore Him.” He was just another LDS member, who happened to have a marvelous experience.

Secondly, he went for Mormons with one foot in the door, and the other on the way out. He released “Removing the Condemnation” and then, of course, “Passing the Heavenly Gift.”

Recently, Denver has apparently reached out to polygamist groups. And now, as of June 29th, 2016, it has been announced– on his website– that the fourth group he will target is, quite simply, Christians.

Denver has in fact unveiled that he has written an entire book designed for mainline Christians. From his site:

The book is an attempt to re-introduce Joseph Smith as an important Christian figure, separate from institutional Mormonism. It is time he became relevant to all Christians, and no longer regarded as the property of Mormonism. The new book should be available on Amazon by early August if anyone is interested.”

Personally, I suspect he will have no such luck in his this endeavour. I believe this for a multiplicity of reasons. I think he is best off appealing to the TBM’s.

Anyone that has ever believed– with all their heart– that Thomas S. Monson is a prophet, is capable of great deception, and is thus susceptible to being deceived once again.

Believers of DS trade crazy for crazy. But the thing is, they are sincere. Yet sincerity has nothing to with the truth. However, they are sincerely trying to follow Christ, which does count for something.

I believe the followers of DS, as well as the followers of some other false prophets, are Terrestrial souls, who belong to Christ at his second coming, even though they were blinded by the craftiness of men. They are Christ’ people– Israel– but they are not of the elect who will be caught up in the cloud.

A DS-inspired blog has itself named “To The Remnant”, which I find ironic, because it truly is a blog for the remnant spoken of in scripture that will be on the earth when Christ and his elect descend to the earth.

The movement of Denver Snuffer has attributed to two great things: the seeing of a false Christ; and a falsely-perceived concept of Joseph Smith.

From ‘To The Remnant’:

Unfortunately, the “saints” stone, cast out, and kill Joseph yet today. Here are some of the ways those who claim to accept Joseph Smith’s mission, instead participate in his assassination:

DS-followers have traded the LDS-church-Joseph for a new Joseph that is just as idealistic and invented!

The truth about Joseph Smith is not easy to grasp. I myself have gone back and forth on to what degree Joseph may have really been innocent of the charges brought against him. I see now that this is a seducing spirit that follows all apostate LDS traditions. Believing in a false Joseph Smith spawns more false beliefs.

My recommended reading on this topic:

https://onewhoiswatching.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/three-chapters-on-the-intercessory-atonement-offering.pdf

https://onewhoissearching.com/2015/03/08/one-like-unto-moses/

In closing, I want to mention what I find most curious about Denver Snuffer. After following his activity for the last three years or so, the most confusing thing to me is his ever-changing thoughts on polygamy and the temple.

The sinking feeling I have is that Denver will bring back polygamy. I think this is bound to occur when he creates his own version of the LDS endowment. After he indoctrinates his followers with new esoteric rituals, there is no telling what may happen.

D&C 50:7

There are hypocrites among you, who have deceived some, which has given the adversary power, but behold such shall be reclaimed.

There is a great many of individuals who have been deceived by the claims of Denver Snuffer, with his false Christ, and seducing spirits. Apparently, such shall be reclaimed. Hopefully, for some at least, this happens in time for them to accept the new and everlasting covenant when it finally returns to the earth. Because Denver Snuffer does not even know what the new and everlasting covenant is, I know that he is a false prophet, and thus can never have seen Christ.

Those that are not reclaimed in time for when the First Elders return to the earth, will be reclaimed at the Second Coming. This is the remnant. They will be sanctified after their pain, which will be brought upon them by the teachings of a false prophet.

-G.azelem

“The Role of Women in the Plan of Salvation” pt 1. Women Will Receive the Priesthood…

The Role of Women in the Plan of Salvation” pt 1. Women Will Receive the Priesthood…

However, this is not the priesthood that the LDS church claims a monopoly on. The priesthood contained in the LDS church can never be given to women. The prepatory priesthoods that Mormon males hold are in fact strictly gender related.

Yet in the dispensation of the fulness of times, women will receive the priesthood which is after the order of the Son of God. This is the only priesthood that truly matters in regards to salvation.

The Lord told Emma Smith at the beginning of Joseph Smith’s ministry, that she would be “ordained” under the hand of her husband. (D&C 25:7)

This has nothing to do with the Relief Society, which was established in 1842.

Because the church was rejected of God in September of 1841, the Relief Society has no business in the legitimate church of God. It was not divinely inspired as part of the restoration of all things.

When the kingdom of God is on the earth again, it will be the same organization that existed from 1831 to 1834 under the ministration of the Prophet Joseph Smith.

When Joseph and Emma return to the earth, Joseph will ordain her unto the fulness of the priesthood, just as it was promised in Section 25. Emma will then expound scripture and exhort the church according to revelation. She will be a prophet.

The fulness of the priesthood is this:

A baptism of fire.

The proof of this is found in the Book of Moses 6. When Adam receives a baptism of fire, he is told that he is now, “after the order of him who was without beginning of days or end of years.”

That is the exact same terminology for the Melchizedek priesthood!

The priesthood which the LDS church has is both Aaronic and Patriarachal. Neither of these priesthoods can bring salvation; they are simply ordinations to perform outward ordinances. The Melchizedek priesthood is absolutely necessary to perform SAVING ordinances.

Section 76 explains that we must receive the Holy Spirit of Promise [baptism of fire] by the laying on of hands by someone who has been ordained AND sealed unto that power.

This cannot currently happen in the day and age in which we live.

Everyone in the church has been ordained to the Patriarachal priesthood, which confirms members, but does not actually bestow the gift of the Holy Ghost.

You also cannot be sealed unto the Patriarachal priesthood. This only occurs with the Melchizedek.

No one in the church has been ordained and sealed unto the Melchizedek priesthood, because no one is even being ordained unto it in the first place! The sealing of that priesthood is receiving a baptism of fire after the ordination.

Section 67:14 “In mine own due time, ye shall see and know that which was conferred upon you by the hands of my servant Joseph Smith.”

You cannot receive a baptism of fire, without the proper laying on of hands for it. And the only person that can properly bestow the Gift of the Holy Ghost is someone who has already received the Holy Ghost. They need the gift themselves to receive revelation on who can and cannot receive it.

From 1831 to 1834– with the Melchizedek priesthood on the earth– Joseph Smith was at perfect liberty to ordain anyone to that priesthood, so that they could go on to receive a baptism of fire/the fulness of the priesthood.

But the time to do so was very limited. The church broke the new and everlasting covenant, and fell into apostasy. By God’s will, Joseph did not ordain any women during that three-and-a-half-year gap of time. This was because the Melchizidek priesthood would– in a very subtle manner– be quietly replaced by the Patriarachal priesthood, which obviously only men can hold.

Women were prevented from getting caught in the crossfire of having the priesthood and then not having any priesthood at all. If this were the case, it would be too obvious that the church no longer had the full authority of God, and the church would not have been able to continue forward with a lesser priesthood and prepatory gospel.

Joseph said, “If I should tell you all I know that will come to pass within twelve years, perhaps there would not one of you believe it, and would apostatize from the Church. But I shall let you learn things as they happen, then most likely you will all stand in the Church.”

Clearly, Joseph Smith wanted the church to continue on, even in an apostate condition. It was part of God’s plan. This is why women did not receive the priesthood during the short time it could have been made available to them.

In the final dispensation, which brings in the millenium, the Melchezidek priesthood will return to the earth; and all the righteous, both male and female, will receive fulness of it. We will finally be restored from our lost and fallen state. We will no longer sin.

-G.azelem