Why People Really Leave the LDS Church

Those involved in making the above chart– which includes their reasons for why people leave the church– left out one important bubble in my opinion.

There should have been one that said, “The church is not true.”

I believe this to be the #1 reason people leave the church. It simply is not true.

While on my mission I perused www.onewhoiswatching.com during my hour of email time, and read something that put a hole in my stomach… He said that the church, as it stood now, was rejected of God.

I couldn’t bear to hear that.

During all my personal studies, I came to many conclusions that Watcher had, but I was yet to enter into that realm of understanding.

The church had to be… SOMEWHAT true, right? It couldn’t just be completely rejected. What would be the point of it all?

Polygamy was a lesser commandment, the endowment was symbolic– Polygamy wasn’t evil and the endowment wasn’t satanic!

That was my line of thinking.

Oh how naïve I was…

I’ve now returned home from my mission for clear over a year now. In California I baptized perhaps a dozen of people, all of which have now cut all ties with the Mormon church. Why?

Because the church is not true.

I’m still close friends with all my converts; and even though I, myself, actually AM an active member, I support them with their choice to leave the church while encouraging them to stay true to their belief in the Book of Mormon and that of the basic tenets of Christianity.

I really don’t blame them for leaving. It’s inevitable.

Mission Presidents will continue to brainwash the missionaries into hopes of baptizing legions of individuals…

Either they won’t baptize at all, or their converts will leave the church.

Why?

Because the converts do not receive what is promised them. They are told that after baptism, they will receive the Holy Ghost– which they don’t.

The product in which missionaries are selling does not work.

By their fruits, ye shall know them.

If you get baptized into a church that says they have the fulness of the gospel, and yet you never receive a fulness, no matter how much tithing you pay or how much you go to the temple–

Something’s the matter.

No one is converted to the gospel, because the fulness of the gospel is not on the earth.

If it was, we could be converted, and healed.

None of us are healed; all of us are broken.

Right now the daily sacrifice—of a broken heart and a contrite spirit—has been taken from the earth. (Daniel 11:31) The day of grace passed by them. (Mormon 2:15)

The LDS church can only offer a prepatory baptism, which is as good as any baptism. The gift of the Holy Ghost is not on the earth until the new and everlasting covenant is re-established.

The church will never reform. It will continue down this path until it is destroyed by the stone cut out of the mountain without hands.

After the church was rejected September 11th, 1841, a secret combination was had among the Saints.

That secret combination still exists within the walls of LDS temples.

Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you… When ye shall see these things come among you… AWAKE TO A SENSE OF YOUR AWFUL SITUATION, because of this secret combination which shall be among you.”

After reading that scripture and then entering the temple for the third time, I woke up to my awful situation…

I realized the church truly had been rejected.

People leave the church without understanding why. They just feel that something is wrong. Most, in fact, leave due to unrighteous priesthood leaders.

And the reason we have unrighteous priesthood leaders…

Is because the church is not true.

However, we do have priesthood. (Not the Melchizedek priesthood, mind you.)

When the daily sacrifice was taken away, we were given the Gospel of Abraham as a replacement. (Section 110)

Abraham visited the Kirtland temple and committed a temporal dispensation unto his seed.

The Book of Abraham explains this.

9 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee above measure, and make thy name great among all nations, and thou shalt be a blessing unto thy seed after thee, that in their hands they shall bear this ministry and Priesthood unto all nations;

10 And I will bless them through thy name; for as many as receive this Gospel shall be called after thy name, and shall be accounted thy seed, and shall rise up and bless thee, as their father;

11 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee; and in thee (that is, in thy Priesthood) and in thy seed (that is, thy Priesthood), for I give unto thee a promise that this right shall continue in thee, and in thy seed after thee (that is to say, the literal seed, or the seed of the body) shall all the families of the earth be blessed, even with the blessings of the Gospel, which are the blessings of salvation, even of life eternal.

Those in the Mormon delusion carry the Abrahamic priesthood, to bless their families and friends.

This Priesthood of the Gospel of Abraham is something to be proud of. It has a power to it that only rare individuals have been able to tap into.

For instance, I was told yesterday by one of my converts that I am the only righteous priesthood holder she knows, after 2 years of being in the church. She believes the church is nothing but false prophets, but does believe in the Priesthood.

The church has the potential to bless many people’s lives with its prepatory gospel and Abrahamic priesthood.

But instead, they play pretend and teach falsehood.

-G.azelem

False Prophets pt. 4 “The Mormon Blogosphere”

Recently, I came across a passage in the New Testament, one which has truly come to reflect our current-day situation:

There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.” 1 Cor 14:10

Right now there are many voices in the world. So many different opinions about Mormonism– each with their own slant on what is happening.

They are all significant.

Even if they are wrong, they are still significant.

This post is about all the Mormon blogs I follow, and my thoughts pertaining to each.

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  1. http://puremormonism.blogspot.ca/

This has probably been my favorite blog over the past few years. It’s written by a very humble follower of Christ, someone by the name of Rock Waterman. His latest piece, however, is what inspired me to begin a review of his work, as well as others like him.

His latest piece is called, “On the High Road to Apostasy” which highlights many reasons why the LDS church is… well, on a high road to apostasy.

Everything in his post is correct. But this is what he’s been saying for 5+ years!

The LDS church is still his focal point. During his excommunication, Rock was shocked by what was happening. It took him by total surprise that they ex’d him in such an unsound and unscriptural manner.

But if the church is in apostasy, of course they aren’t going to be following the scriptures! He has been ex’d for over a year now, yet he still writes about the LDS church…

Nothing can be done about the church. Its bed has been made. This is the failing of Pure Mormonism.

Once you understand the prophetic events that are about to take place, the LDS church takes a backseat. Being excommunicated should be an eye-opener, a blessing, not a conondrum.

Rock is a wonderful man, and I love how valiant he has been in his search for truth. I believe that he will accept True Prophets when they arrive on scene. The only thing that stands between him and God is Denver Snuffer.

  1. http://www.totheremnant.com/

This is an incredible blog. Believe it or not, I have learned a lot from Adrian Larsen’s writings. He focuses on the scriptures and digs up hidden truths that everyone else seems to bypass.

His wife gave a talk at the Denver Snuffer Doctrine Conference; and it was awesome to discover that she is just as sharp as her husband, in some ways even more so. Her talk in fact brought tears to my eyes.

[update: I was informed by the author of To The Remnant, that the speaker at the Doctrine of Christ conference was not his [Adrian Larsen’s] wife, but his brother’s.]

These two are deeply commited to the cause of Christ, and have the best intentions of any.

How the Larsen’s happen to believe in Denver Snuffer as a prophet is not a huge shocker. Denver’s message appeals to the pure in heart– to those that truly want to live a Christ-like life.

Forget the church, follow Christ.”

This is the right message. And this is what attracts people to Denver Snuffer. However, Denver’s ministry is not in accordance to scriptural prophecy. That’s what makes him a danger to people’s salvation.

There are people who hold the belief that they can live the fulness of the gospel– as taught by DS. This is incorrect.

The fulness is not on the earth– and so long as people believe they are living it, this will become a huge stumbling-block.

  1. https://ldsanarchy.wordpress.com/

This is a fascinating blog. The Anarchist is one of the most colorful personalities in Mormondom. He claims to be a prophet. Has many revelations, dreams, visions etc. all of which I find very fascinating.

Every post of his I am excited to read. He is full of light and truth. However, he happens to also be deceived on a number of issues.

In some areas of the scriptures, he is light years ahead of most. But like the Larsen’s, he has stumbling-blocks of his own.

He believes that there will be “Josephite” prophet from Lehi’s seed, who will be the major player in the last days. The Anarchist believes that this guy is the one mighty and strong who will gather the tribes of Israel and bring about Zion.

His failure to rethink this will prevent him from further understanding.

Because he considers himself a prophet, his beliefs are “revelations” that came from God. Because of this, he finds himself in no position to doubt or question those revelations. He has to stay true to his spiritual experiences which are what sustain his journey of faith.

Like those caught up in the grand delusion of the LDS church, the Anarchist must also recognize he has been deceived the same way all of us have been led astray.

Just as Mormons must discard their spirtual experiences that “the church is true” the Anarchist must discard his own.

Every single one of us has been deceived, and will continue to be to deceived until the fulness of the priesthood returns to the earth. However, the Anarchist has lots to offer, and I highly recommend reading through his writings.

  1. http://greatandmarvelouswork.com/

There seems to be multiple authors who contribute to this blog. It contains very similar information that I, Watcher, and Searcher, have highlited on our blogs. [ https://onewhoiswatching.wordpress.com/https://onewhoissearching.com/ ]

The biggest difference between this blog and the three of ours is the rejection of the Doctrine and Covenants.

The authors of “The Great and Marvelous Work” have been influenced by the writings of David Whitmer. Like Whitmer, they have concluded that Joseph Smith was commanded by God to only bring forth the Book of Mormon, and that everything else that followed was Joseph going beyond his bounds.

After reading David Whitmer’s “An Address to All Believers in Christ” I can empathize as to why they have made their dire conclusions.

It would make matters very simple to write off the LDS church as a whole.

However, to deny the revelations of Jesus Christ as contained in the D&C is a rejection of God’s word.

This is a big deal.

The Doctrine and Covenants is a very important canon of scripture. It is absolutely indispensible.

  1. http://www.defendingjoseph.com/

Similar to denying the D&C, the author of “In Defense of Joseph” has denied that Joseph was ever involved with the principle of polygamy.

Again, it would make matters very simple to adopt this frame of thought. Oh how great it would be to believe that Joseph was innocent of polygamy…

I, myself, believed this at one point.

There has been much good research done defending this. Richard and Pamela Price, for instance, have done a great job at presenting the case that Brigham Young & others began the practice, not Joseph.

Just as David Whitmer gives a plausible case for the denial of the D&C, there is a plausible case for a monogamist-Joseph Smith.

These are significant voices.

Everyone must study the evidence and prayerfully consider these perspectives.

I am of the belief that one must accept that Joseph stopped abiding in the Lord in order for them to fully understand the secret history of Mormonism. I believe that those who believe him to be innocent are under the influence of a very seductive false spirit.

It feels good to believe that Joseph is innocent.

I understand this, and empathize with those who hold this position. The secular evidence is not entirely conclusive.

My belief that Joseph was guilty of polygamy– comitting treachery against the wife of his youth– is rooted from biblical and modern prophecy pertaining to him.

  1. http://anonymousbishop.com/

This is a site much like Adrian Larsen’s, To The Remnant.

AB has a knack for writing some great stuff. But like Larsen, the Anonymous Bishop is caught up in the Denver delusion. It is very rare that he even makes mention of DS, but he has alluded to him just enough times to make it clear that he DOES believe Denver Snuffer to be a true messenger.

Not only does AB write good articles, the comments sections explode with great discussion, to which I even chime in.

  1. https://zomarah.wordpress.com/

Like the Anonymous Bishop is similar to To the Remnant, this blog is very similar to Pure Mormonism.

Zomarah and Rock continue to insistently write about the LDS church. All of its problems and issues.

The fact of the matter is that there are literally hundreds of problems and none of it is ever going to change.

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This brings me to the reason I decided to write this post.

I believe that I have the answers to which all of these other voices are seeking, or claim to have found.

I believe I have the missing pieces.

My next post, which will be titled “Mysteries of the Kingdom pt. 3”, will outline exactly what is going to occur in the near future, by detailing where we are in the prophetic timeline, as recorded in the Book of Revelation.

I believe if you have an understanding of prophecy, the problems in the church will become irrelevent to you, same with Denver Snuffer.

[Not only will DS appear irrelevent, but dangerous even.]

Lastly, I want to return back to the original scripture I shared:

There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.” 1 Cor 14:10

Remember that God has ordained all of these conflicting voices, and they all have a very important place.

Rock Waterman opened my eyes to many issues about the LDS church; Denver Snuffer even taught me many things– albeit years ago.

It’s up to each of us to figure out the truth in between all of them.

When the Lord brings again Zion, his watchmen will finally see eye to eye. (Isaiah 52:8) Until then, we must be very, very careful–

because none of us will see on the exact same page until then.

My hope is that my next post will be of great use to those seeking the truth. Even if someone may disagree with everything else I’ve written, I think my next post will be very important regardless.

I don’t mean to sound prideful and arrogant. I don’t have all the answers, and I certainly am no more righteous than the next person.

All I mean to say is that these voices in the Mormon blogosphere are deeply flawed in one way or another.

My next post will prove this.

My next post will provide the keys to avoid being deceived by false prophets– in and out of the LDS church.

I of course challenge anyone who happens to read it to find flaws therein. If I am wrong, I will gladly change my paradigm.

I seek the truth and nothing else. This has nothing to do with me. I have been wrong in my life about nearly everything. I’m not afraid to be wrong again. We must all be humble and willing to rethink our beliefs.

-G.azelem