Polygamy, A Horror Story

As I came to understand the things of Mormon history, it became apparent to me that I would one day put it all into writing.

I wanted my blog to be a shadow of Alma 37. The prophecy tells us that in the last days there will be a servant of God, named Gazelem, who exposes the things of darkness.

I of course do not claim to be this servant, but I’ve wanted my blog to have that same calling.

Mark 4:

22 For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.

Right now in the world we have people like Julian Assange and Edward Snowden. They are doing a fantastic job at exposing corporations for what they really are, as well as bringing to light the countless war-crimes committed in the name of American government.

They are doing what Gazelem will, only Gazelem will be revealing things on an even grander scale.

Wikileaks has just barely scratched the surface.

Recently, there is now a Mormonleaks.

https://mormonleaks.io/#about

Since its inception, I’ve been anticipating each release of whatever document ends up in their hands. There’s no telling what nuggets of truth will come from that website. The inner-workings of the LDS church is full of hypocrisy and lies.

Because of Mormonleaks, we know for certain the thing we always suspected: there IS a paid ministry. From what I’ve gathered, the apostles are raking in a six-digit salary on top of all their perks.

But the LDS church no longer interests me.

It was rejected of God by 1842. It’s a miracle that it has somehow sustained itself after everything that happened when Brigham, John, and Wilford were presidents.

Besides, we don’t need Mormonleaks to expose the things that the scriptures have already made clear.

The Gentiles rejected the fulness of the gospel, as told to us by Christ in 3rd Nephi 16.

It’s as simple as that.

However, Mormonleaks provides some interesting context, and will no doubt have an effect on blind Israel. Some will finally realize that their shepherds have been scattering them, not gathering them.

Heavy burdens have been put on the backs of the membership.

However, the need for a prophet and community has conjured Denver Snuffer into the spotlight.

The Saints are not leaving the church in favor of what the scriptures teach. They are leaving because of bullshitters like Grant Palmer, Jeremy Runnells, and, of course, Davey Snuffer.

This morning I perused Grant Palmer’s anti-Mormon book, “An Insider’s View of Mormon Origins,” and was blown away by how ridiculous it is.

I originally read it as a non-believer, and thought it was thoughtfully written.

Now I find all his contentions absolutely laughable.

He was an institute director for the LDS church for 35 years. You’d think all that studying would have opened his eyes to the truthfulness of God’s word.

In his disillusionment of the church, his faith has fallen to pieces. He claims to still believe in Christ, but he does not know Christ.

Christ says, “My sheep hear my voice.”

When the Lord speaks, his sheep hear it!

Anyone that rejects the Book of Mormon, or the revelations of Joseph Smith, are not in the fold of God.

Likewise, anyone that believes in false prophets, are not the sheep of Christ, but the sheep of the devil. (Alma 5)

I of course hope that many will recognize the error of their ways and accept the fulness of the gospel when the times of the Gentiles comes in for the last time–

Just because someone is deceived, doesn’t mean they don’t have a chance.

We all fall short in one area or another.

I am by no means righteous. I might understand the scriptures better than most, but that doesn’t make me better than anyone.

Yet righteousness is the standard in which we all need to be striving for.

I was blasted by a Snufferite who told me that I should not point out Denver Snuffer’s flaws. Prophets aren’t perfect, right?

Some are, actually.

In any case, Mosiah 23 says,

14 And also trust no one to be your teacher nor your minister, except he be a man of God, walking in his ways and keeping his commandments.

Denver Snuffer is not of God.

Those of God are not deceived; they recognize the voice of the Lord. Denver rejects Section 110, which contains Christ speaking. He has also broken the commandment of monogamy and remarried. He is not a man of God, and therefore I will not trust him as my teacher.

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When I was beginning to have the scriptures illuminated before me by the spirit of revelation, I realized that Section 132, and polygamy in general, was entirely false.

By the spirit of revelation, I finally understood this passage of Isaiah… “In that day seven women shall take hold of one man…”

In my younger years, I used to think that was evidence for the truthfulness of polygamy. I now understand what Isaiah was actually saying:

1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

2 In that day shall the branch of the Lord be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.

3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy,

The beautiful branch of the Lord is not the polygamists, but those that ESCAPED Israel!

So I knew that polygamy would make a comeback, and when it did, the holy ones would escape and be in Zion/Jerusalem.

I used to think that the LDS church would bring back polygamy.

But I no longer believe this to be the case. Polygamy is going to pop its head back up, but it won’t be the LDS church.

I’ve now been saying for almost two years that Denver Snuffer will bring back polygamy; or, at very least, allow it to occur.

Mormonleaks has brought an interesting document to the table.

https://mormonleaks.io/wiki/index.php?title=File:Stake_President_Reports_Apostasy.pdf

Snufferites are engaging in spiritual wifery!!!!!!

Of course, these “sealings” are “spiritual”.

They’re just doing what they believe Joseph did!

Denver has taught repeatedly that Joseph had himself sealed to multiple women.

However, he teaches that Joseph did not engage in sexual relations.

That was Brigham Young’s style, not Joseph’s.

Because of Snufferites belief in Denver’s teachings, they believe that Joseph Smith did not commit adultery, but that multiple sealings are ordained of God.

In the Snufferite movement it will become common-place to have yourself sealed to multiple others.

It’ll be “spiritual” – but eventually there will be sexual incidences. When this happens, Denver will not speak against it. He will give the people exactly what they want.

Denver will also introduce esoteric rituals into his temple.

Not the ones Brigham introduced, he says, but the endowment that Joseph revealed! Denver will finally bring it back… uh-huh.

The Snufferites believe that Joseph Smith did not fall from his station as prophet. They think he was teaching truth when he sealed himself to multiple women, introduced endowment ceremonies, and taught the King Follet Sermon.

Because they refuse to accept the cold hard truth about Joseph, they are going to fall for the exact same crap that the Nauvoo saints fell for.

History repeats itself.

And all of it will be made known.

Alma 37:

23 And the Lord said: I will prepare unto my servant Gazelem, a stone, which shall shine forth in darkness unto light, that I may discover unto my people who serve me, that I may discover unto them the works of their brethren, yea, their secret works, their works of darkness, and their wickedness and abominations.

Those that serve Christ, will know the truth of all things.

God will discover unto us all the secret works of darkness that are being committed by our brethren.

-G.azelem

Doctrine of Denver Conference pt. 3

A popular phrase amongst Snufferites is that the Lord has set his hand again the second time.

At the conference, Paul Durham said, “I bear witness that the Lord Jesus Christ has set forth His hand the second time in our day to recover His people.”

Let’s look at where this phrase originally comes from….

Isaiah 11:

10 ¶ And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

With Section 113, we learn that the root of Jesse is a servant of God:

5 What is the root of Jesse spoken of in the 10th verse of the 11th chapter?

6 Behold, thus saith the Lord, it is a descendant of Jesse, as well as of Joseph, unto whom rightly belongs the priesthood, and the keys of the kingdom, for an ensign, and for the gathering of my people in the last days.

In my last post, I explained how the root of Jesse is actually Sidney Rigdon.

https://themarvelouswork.com/2017/03/23/doctrine-of-denver-conference-pt-2-qa/

Isaiah 11:1 explains that the “Branch” prophet is synonymous with the root of Jesse.

Sometimes I think Warren Jeffs understands the scriptures better than Denver Snuffer… Warren released his own ensign to the nations while in prison, even claiming to be the spokesman! Davey Snuffer keeps saying that the Lord has set his hand again, yet where is the ensign? Who is the root of Jesse???

I am positive that Sidney Rigdon is the root, and we need to be waiting for his ensign. Another piece of evidence that this is the case is by comparing Isaiah’s description of the ensign, to the role of Sidney Rigdon as contained in the Doctrine and Covenants.

Isaiah 18:

3 All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign on the mountains; and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye.

Now let’s look at Section 124:

104 And if he will offer unto me an acceptable offering, and acknowledgments, and remain with my people, behold, I, the Lord your God, will heal him that he shall be healed; and he shall lift up his voice again on the mountains, and be a spokesman before my face.

Sidney Rigdon will be healed, and lift his voice on the mountains!

This was a conditional promise, though.

Did Sidney Rigdon offer an acceptable offering? He was commanded to remain with the people– Did he do this?

YES!

Joseph Smith was running around sleeping with women—even trying to get with Sidney’s daughter—and yet Sidney NEVER SPOKE OUT against Joseph.

If the prophet of the church was trying to get with my daughter, I think I would run town.

However, Sidney followed the commands of God! He remained with the people.

After Joseph died, the church turned against Sidney and excommunicated him.

Sidney Rigdon was the scapegoat offering that Leviticus 16 outlines. Being tossed out of the church was part of his acceptable offering.

He was the true successor to Joseph/Hyrum.

The church should have heeded him. The church was told in Section 124:

45 And if my people will hearken unto my voice, and unto the voice of my servants whom I have appointed to lead my people, behold, verily I say unto you, they shall not be moved out of their place.

Going to Utah was a result of not hearkening to God’s true servants!! Had they listened to Sidney, they would not have been moved out of their place!

To me, it’s all so obvious.

To further clarify, we can identify exactly where the mountain is that the ensign will go forth.

It is Kirtland.

That is the mountain of the Lord’s house.

One of the most ridiculous things that Denver Snuffer said during this conference is that God still hadn’t appointed the new place of gathering.

HOW RIDICULOUS IS THAT!

Section 101:

20 And, behold, there is none other place appointed than that which I have appointed; neither shall there be any other place appointed than that which I have appointed, for the work of the gathering of my saints—

There is not going to be a newly designated place!!!!

Section 84:

4 Verily this is the word of the Lord, that the city New Jerusalem shall be built by the gathering of the saints, beginning at this place, even the place of the temple, which temple shall be reared in this generation.

The gathering will begin in Kirtland.

That’s where the solemn assembly will be, and the endowment of power, which will enable God’s servants to go forth FOR THE LAST TIME and gather the elect from the four corners of the earth.

When this happens….

Then you can start saying the Lord has set his hand again the second time.

-G.azelem

Doctrine of Denver Conference pt. 2 “Q&A”

Denver Snuffer said in his Q&A:

Rigdon advised Joseph to build a New Testament church… and it didn’t work!

THIS IS SO PROBLEMATIC ON SO MANY LEVELS I DONT KNOW WHERE TO START

Denver believes that Joseph was wrong in restoring a New Testament church.

Holy crap.

How thick can you get?

The Snufferites reject the D&C, so I guess it makes sense.

They have rejected Section 20—how to govern The Church of Christ—for their own system of things: http://scriptures.info/Scriptures/pgp/gov_principles/

I have something to declare:

Rigdon was not in charge and did not “influence” Joseph Smith in any way.

Joseph Smith, himself, was not in charge.

God was!

The revelations that preceded forth by the mouth of God are the will of God! You cannot trade and replace it for something else.

Another thing from the Q&A that raised serious alarms was this:

Denver is against the use of “thees” and “thous” and “ye.” He thinks our scriptures should be modern sounding.

So… He is against the biblical language that enables us to use keyword searches to connect the dots between the standard works! To change the language of God’s word is so dangerous…

God’s word is meticulously designed that we may understand its entirety.

Denver has become a major stumbling block to people who want to understand the scriptures.

If you take anything Denver Snuffer says seriously, you will never understand the scriptures or Mormon history.

To believe Sidney Rigdon is to be blamed for how things in the Restoration went is beyond ridiculous.

Sidney Rigdon, unlike Dave Snuffer, was anointed by God.

This is how the Lord speaks of him and his anointed:

As many as shall come before my servants Sidney Rigdon and Joseph Smith, Jun., embracing this calling and commandment, shall be ordained and sent forth to preach the everlasting gospel among the nations— D&C 36:5

In order to preach the gospel among the nations, you must come before Sidney Rigdon and Joseph Smith.

Kind of a big deal.

Zechariah speaks of these two servants: “These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.” (Zech 4:14)

One of these anointed ones is termed “The Branch”.

The Branch prophet is to build the final temple and bear the glory. (Zech 6)

Is it any wonder that Sidney Rigdon was put in charge in dedicating the temple lot in Missouri?

The Snufferites do not read the Doctrine and Covenants, nor do they take it seriously.

They just trust Davey Snuffer. He knows what he’s doing!

Denver claims to have received the new name of David. This infers that he will be the final shepherd over the flock of God.

Here is one such example, found in Ezekiel 34:

23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.

24 And I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the Lord have spoken it.

I’m here to say that the servant David is NOT Denver Snuffer.

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First let me delve into a deep piece of doctrine. I believe that Shiloh is not the Messiah, but Sidney Rigdon.

8 ¶ Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father’s children shall bow down before thee.

9 Judah is a lion’s whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Judah has always been in the leadership positions. From the time of Moses, to Brigham Young, Judah has been the lawgiver. This is the way it will always be, until Shiloh comes, to whom the gathering will be for the dispensation of the fulness of times.

Shiloh will be from Judah.

Zechariah 8:

23 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.

Another meaning for “Shiloh” is “whose right it is”–

The D&C speaks of this.

58:22 Wherefore, be subject to the powers that be, until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet.

Remember, it is Christ speaking in the D&C, and the person who reigns whose right it is therefore is not Christ.

So Shiloh is not Christ.

It is Sidney Rigdon.

Sidney Rigdon is the root of Jesse, of pure Jewish descent. Joseph was the rod of Jesse, both Ephraim and Judah.

In Section 28, the Saints were called on a mission and told to preach to the Lamanites.

They thought it was an unsuccessful mission. But were able to preach to the Campbellite minister and his flock.

What they never realized was that Sidney Rigdon was the Lamanite they were called to preach to!

Although, keep in mind, Rigdon was not from the tribe of Manesseh… Remember, the blood of Zedekiah, king of Judah, was also in the Americas.

Rigdon was Shiloh, whose right it will be to reign!

Right now we are to be subject to the powers that control us, until he finally comes to reign.

In regards to the Root of Jesse, the Lord says in Section 113

6 Behold, thus saith the Lord, it is a descendant of Jesse, as well as of Joseph, unto whom rightly belongs the priesthood, and the keys of the kingdom, for an ensign, and for the gathering of my people in the last days.

To him will be the gathering of the people, just like Genesis 39 says!

As many as shall come before my servants Sidney Rigdon and Joseph Smith, Jun., embracing this calling and commandment, shall be ordained and sent forth to preach the everlasting gospel among the nations— D&C 36:5

John the Baptist/Elijah will overthrow the LDS church.

Joseph Smith will redeem Zion, and gather the tribes of Israel with Sidney Rigdon.

Anyone wanting to be a missionary will have to come before Joseph and Sidney, the two anointed ones that stand by the Lord of the earth.

Lastly, Genesis 39 speaks of Shiloh when the blessing is given to Judah; it also speaks of the shepherd which actually comes from Joseph!

22 ¶ Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:

23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:

24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)

This is Joseph Smith! The rod of Jesse!

Much power is given to the rod of Jesse, which is what he will need to redeem Zion. But he is not the Davidic king, whose right it is to reign. But… Genesis 39:24 says that he is a shepherd, which is what “David” is supposed to be: a shepherd to the people.

Take a look at Hosea 3:

Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

Now let’s return to Ezekiel 34:

23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.

24 And I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the Lord have spoken it.

Have you figured it out???

Sidney Rigdon is the Davidic King!

Joseph Smith is the Davidic prince, the shepherd.

The two anointed ones to stand by the Lord of the Earth. They are coming to the earth to gather the people for a witness to all nations.

And let me tell you… Sidney Rigdon is gonna have quite a word with Davey Snuffer…

-G.azelem

Doctrine of Denver Conference

Things were starting to cool off in the Mormon world.

Denver Snuffer sure keeps us bloggers busy.

The last interesting thing to happen was when DS released his ridiculous rendition of The Book of John.

Watcher destroyed it here: https://onewhoiswatching.wordpress.com/2017/03/04/the-record-of-john-the-baptist-deconstructing-the-denver-snuffer-revelation-on-st-john/

I am now going to destroy Denver’s words at his conference.

Currently, on the website, they only have the audio—no transcripts available yet—so I had to drudge through 2+ hr of audio. Denver’s voice is so boring and un-illuminating, I hope you know it took a lot of willpower to listen to it all. It’s almost as boring as General Conference.

I know the majority of my readers believe Denver to be a prophet. You guys have thick skin to keep reading my blog. I don’t mean to alienate you, and I hope you forgive me for speaking evil against your anointed.

The first bomb-shell that Denver drops during his talk is that the “fulness of the scriptures” is available.

http://scriptures.info/Scriptures

This new set of scriptures does some interesting things: it includes the Lectures on Faith (a no-brainer) and it also includes revelations by Denver himself and little bonus things that Joseph said that DS has decided to canonize.

Much like Brigham Young with Section 130, Denver Snuffer has decided to canonize the words of Joseph Smith that he never intended to canonize. Everything that Joseph revealed had to be kept in check by Sidney Rigdon. The Lord knew Joseph would speak presumptuously, which is why he gave him a spokesman, to keep him in line with the Word of God.

Joseph taught many erroneous things.

It’s a bold thing to proclaim yourself to have the same calling that Sidney Rigdon did.

Section 132—the doctrine have plural marriage—was never given to Sidney Rigdon to do his regular check-up. This is why it was never canonized. Had Sidney read it, he would have thrown it into a fire.

Denver has not removed Section 132, but has “revised” it, as Section 54. He removed the uncomfortable bits, but it proves what I’ve said time and time again: Denver believes in polygamy.

In Passing the Heavenly Gift, he wrote that by marrying Fanny Alger, Joseph completed his Abrahamic sacrifice, which gave him the sealing power. This, I of course find ridiculous.

Denver, being so full of wisdom, added something of his own into the Book of Proverbs– which makes no sense at all, since that’s the Old Testament, like seriously WTF

He says, in their scripture edition, Proverbs 10:23 “The eternal union of man and woman is a return to Eden before the Fall. The Temple and the ordinances found there are, for us, the return to Eden before the Fall and the completion of creation through the union of man and woman in an infinite covenant.”

Denver still believes in the Nauvoo temple ordinances! He is going to restore these in his new temple. http://www.thetemplefund.net/

By including his own 132, he proves that he has not changed his mind on this matter. He may play softball and say Joseph was not sleeping with his wives, but he believes Joseph was commanded by God to take multiple wives nonetheless.

[The women he married claimed to have had sex with Joseph. But they were just lying apparently.]

At the end of Snuffer’s address, he says polygamy is adultery. But he only rejects polygamy “of men;” he does not reject polygamy “of God.” Whatever is going on in “your skull”—he says, in regards to polygamy—is wrong, but what God says on the matter is something he is keeping to himself.

He believes polygamy was commanded by God as an Abrahamic sacrifice. He is going to say exactly what Brigham said…. I didn’t want to practice polygamy! It was the last thing on my mind! But the Lord commanded it, and I had to do it!

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If you take the word of God seriously, you take the calling of Sidney Rigdon seriously.

The Pearl of Great Price was canonized by apostates, not Joseph and Sidney.

Denver Snuffer, if he had the same calling as Sidney Rigdon, would have dissolved the “POGP” and separated the Book of Abraham as a singular book.

But Denver is just as bad as Brigham Young and Orson Hyde. He is canonizing things that were never meant to be canonized. This is just as bad as de-canonizing the Lectures on Faith.

The Wentworth Letter, Joseph Smith History…

Those are not scripture!

Denver’s new scriptures are a MESS.

Section 133 was supposed to be the appendices of the D&C. Denver has it listed as Section 21.

They’ve even included the ridiculous Section 126—to them, Section 167—which Brigham Young obviously made up.

*facepalm

Where was the discernment there? How did this movement not know that Section 126 was a lie of BY? Probably because they don’t have the Spirit of God.

I could go on…

Okay one last one: NO SECTION 110!!!!!!!

One of the most important and valuable revelations… REMOVED… Yike-a-rumba…

Section 110 is a no good, but the revelation on polygamy and the Nauvoo Temple ordinances are okay.

Riiiiiiiight.

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At about fifty minutes into Denver’s talk, he says that the Work of the Father has already commenced.

I have blogged about this here: https://themarvelouswork.com/2016/12/07/the-mysteries-of-the-kingdom-pt-4-the-first-trump-and-the-wheat-and-the-tares/

The Marvelous Work and a Wonder must occur FIRST.

The Work of the Father only commences once the first trumpet blows and the tares are burned.

1 Nephi 14:

17 And when the day cometh that the wrath of God is poured out upon the mother of harlots, which is the great and abominable church of all the earth, whose founder is the devil, then, at that day, the work of the Father shall commence, in preparing the way for the fulfilling of his covenants, which he hath made to his people who are of the house of Israel.

Denver Snuffer does not understand the scriptures if he believes the Work of the Father has commenced.

The Marvelous Work must occur first, to gather the wheat (Gentiles) out from the tares. Once the wrath of God/tribulation occurs, THEN the Work of the Father commences in gathering all the dispersed of Israel.

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In their “Pearls of Great Price”, Denver drops another huge bomb-shell…

On the 10 th day of September, 2011 the word of the Lord said to me, You shall no longer be called Denver, but your name shall be called David.”

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Denver has fully established his position as the Davidic servant of the end-times.

Riiiiiight.

I’ll start calling him Dave Snuffer from now on, hahaha.

-G.azelem

Houses of God pt. 6 “Far West”

My views on temples is completely different than that of nearly anyone.

I have determined that there are three types of houses of God. I’ve classified them as such:

House of God

House/Temple of God

Temple of God.

Read the series to understand how I came to these conclusions.

Houses of God pt. 1 “The Fulness of the Gospel”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-1/

Houses of God pt. 2 “Kirtland”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-2-kirtland/

Houses of God pt. 3 “Nauvoo”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-3-nauvoo/

Houses of God pt. 4 “The Redemption of Zion”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-4-the-redemption-of-zion/

Houses of God pt. 5 “The Temple of Doom”

https://themarvelouswork.com/2017/01/05/houses-of-god-pt-5-the-temple-of-doom/

[Note: I recognize the series is kinda long. I recommend reading at least part 3-5 for context.]

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In my opinion I have proven (though I changed no one’s mind) that it was the Nauvoo HOUSE that needed to be built in time before the church was rejected, and not the Nauvoo Temple.

I believe this is important, because Denver Snuffer is building a temple and not a house when a house needs to first be built in order to receive the fulness of the priesthood.

I reached out to Snufferites to challenge me, and none did.

The Anarchist of https://ldsanarchy.wordpress.com/ however took me for a fool.

He believes my contention to be laughable.

He also believes that the Nauvoo Temple was accepted by God.

I find THAT laughable. He thinks that an unfinished temple was enough to appease God.

This is what the Lord says about his houses:

Let them from that time forth labor diligently until it shall be finished, from the cornerstone thereof unto the top thereof, until there shall not anything remain that is not finished.

-Section 115:12

So to me it sounds like God isn’t interested in unfinished temples.

Joseph Smith said this: “Don’t deny revelation. If the Temple and Nauvoo House are not finished, you must run away. Our salvation depends on it.”

The Nauvoo Temple was not finished. The historical record PROVES THAT.

This is what Brigham Young said in admittance:

I met with the Council of the Twelve in the southeast corner room of the attic of the Temple. We knelt around the altar, and dedicated the building to the Most High. We asked his blessing upon our intended move to the west; also asking him to enable us some day to finish the Temple, and dedicate it to him, and we would leave it in his hands to do as he pleased; and to preserve the building as a monument to Joseph Smith. We asked the Lord to accept the labors of his servants in this land. We then left the Temple.”

Immediately after Brigham’s prayer, the temple caught fire and went up in flames.

This happened in 1846.

Even by then, they never finished the freaking temple…

The historical record shows that the apostles built a masonic temple and built themselves expensive brick houses during the time in which they should have put all efforts into the Nauvoo House and Temple.

The Nauvoo Temple was never accepted by God.

That should be sufficient to prove that the church was rejected by God by this time.

I take it a step further and say the church was rejected by 1842. I also take it another step further and say that the Nauvoo House was what was being commanded of God to build during that appointed time in Nauvoo.

My ideas make things more complicated and harder for people to digest, but they are nonetheless true. All my ideas support the fact that the masonic endowment and polygamy were ploys of Satan. My conclusions let everything fall into their proper place.

I also believe that the Nauvoo Temple was defiled by its occult symbols as well as the Moroni statue. The Kirtland House/Temple, which was accepted by God, had none of that.

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Now with all of this mind, in regards to Far West I want to mention something I’m suspecting about Section 115.

I believe that in order to understand the D&C we have to remove ourselves from the historical context of each revelation.

For instance:

The Saints believed Section 124 was referring to the Nauvoo Temple– because that’s where they were doing baptisms for the dead– and the Saints believed Section 84 was referring to the temple in Missouri, not the Kirtland House/Temple.

We have to mystically observe God’s word without using the hindsight of an apostate church!

Section 115 gives the commandment to build a House in Far West–

Or does it?

I believe Section 115 was never meant to have anything to do with Far West.

Perhaps Joseph and the Saints believed it was, but I believe it was a foreshadowing of the future.

This is speculative, and I don’t really feel like explaining it. I can’t even get people to believe anything else I’ve written about temples! Email me and I’ll entertain you:

theworkofthefather37 @ gmail . com

This is the last I will write in this series.

Perhaps I will write a part seven when I receive word that we must go to the Kirtland House/Temple for the solemn assembly as part of the marvelous work and a wonder….

Until then, yours truly:

-G.azelem

Houses of God pt. 5 “The Temple of Doom”

It’s pathetic just how excited I get about the Snufferite movement and all their ridiculous attempts to please God.

They now have a Temple Fund– on gofundme.com no less!

https://www.gofundme.com/the-temple-fund-project

Oh boy here we go…

Those following Snuffer– and yes they are following him– have some serious blind spots.

I have laid out every reason why the Snufferite movement is not God setting his hand again the second time…

I have not received a single rebuttal. The snufferites love their prophet and the fuzzys they get listening to his BS.

Denver Snuffer is Satan’s modern day masterpiece.

A polygamy preaching racist like James Harmston isn’t gonna do the trick anymore.

You need someone who claims Joseph never commited polygamy…

That’s the kind of thing that believing Mormons need to hear if they’re gonna leave the corporate LDS church.

[With that said, I don’t actually care if anyone stays or leaves the LDS church.]

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This post I am going to explain why Snuffer’s temple is BS.

Is this going to change the mind of any potential Snufferite??

Nope–

they are just like the Mormons who refuse to read anti-Mormonism because it might damage their testimonies…

But for someone like me, who years ago was torn between all the many voices in the world, I think it may prove useful.

Before reading any further, please take a look at the previous posts I’ve done about temples:

Part One: the fulness of the gospel

https://theworkofthefather.wordpress.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-1/

Part Two: Kirtland

https://theworkofthefather.wordpress.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-2-kirtland/

Part Three: Nauvoo

https://theworkofthefather.wordpress.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-3-nauvoo/

Part Four: the redemption of zion

https://theworkofthefather.wordpress.com/2015/12/21/houses-of-god-pt-4-the-redemption-of-zion/

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I feel like I need to reiterate something very important that I covered in Part Three of this series.

A huge controversy in Mormondom is whether or not the church was rejected by God.

Did the Saints finish the temple in Nauvoo or did they not?

I made the case that they didn’t. But I also made the case that it was never the temple that they were commanded to build in time.

They were commanded to build the Nauvoo House! That DEFINITELY wasn’t built in time; it basically wasn’t built at all – LOL

Honestly, I am very quite proud of the series I wrote. I wrote those on my mission. It still boggles me how I was able to wrap my mind around the temple controversies.

Anyway, enough gloating.

Why is it significant that it was the House not the Temple being commanded in Section 124?

Because the Snufferites still don’t know the difference between the two!

This proves that Denver doesn’t know what he is talking about; and his attempt to build a “temple” will not be in accordance with God’s will.

I have explained the difference and meaning between the houses of God.

House of God = for ordinations to fulness of priesthood (and baptisms for dead)

House/Temple of God = for sanctification

If Denver was legit, he would be building a *House of God, not a temple, to ordain people to the fulness of the priesthood.

THEN they would build a house/temple to receive sanctification which would enable them to be in the presence of the Lord.

They should be creating a fund for both a House and a Temple to receive the fulness of the gospel.

However, Denver claims he already holds the fulness of the priesthood AND he claims he’s already seen our Lord…

What an idiot. What’s the temple even for?

Oh yeah, a stupid masonic cermony…

I’m now going to break down Section 124 in detail to prove what should be obvious.

23 And it shall be for a house for boarding, a house [the Nauvoo House] that strangers [seed of Abraham/strangers in a strange land] may come from afar to lodge therein; therefore let it be a good house, worthy of all acceptation, that the weary traveler may find health and safety while he shall contemplate the word of the Lord; and the cornerstone I have appointed for Zion.

24 This house shall be a healthful habitation if it be built unto my name, and if the governor which shall be appointed unto it shall not suffer any pollution to come upon it. It shall be holy, or the Lord your God will not dwell therein.

25 And again, verily I say unto you, let all my saints come from afar.

26 And send ye swift messengers, yea, chosen messengers, and say unto them: Come ye, with all your gold, and your silver, and your precious stones, and with all your antiquities; and with all who have knowledge of antiquities, that will come, may come, and bring the box tree, and the fir tree, and the pine tree, together with all the precious trees of the earth;

27 And with iron, with copper, and with brass, and with zinc, and with all your precious things of the earth; and build a house to my name, for the Most High to dwell therein.

28 For there is not a place found on earth that he may come to and restore again that which was lost unto you, or which he hath taken away, even the fulness of the priesthood. [still referring to the Nauvoo House!]

29 For a baptismal font there is not upon the earth, that they, my saints, may be baptized for those who are dead—

30 For this ordinance belongeth to my house, [Nauvoo House….] and cannot be acceptable to me, only in the days of your poverty, wherein ye are not able to build a house unto me. [Saints no longer in poverty; therefore, they must build the temple before performing baptisms for the dead and/or receiving the fulness of the priesthood.]

31 But I command you, all ye my saints, to build a house unto me; and I grant unto you a sufficient time to build a house unto me; and during this time your baptisms shall be acceptable unto me. [during this time regular baptisms are acceptable, NOT baptisms for the dead]

32 But behold, at the end of this appointment your baptisms for your dead shall not be acceptable unto me; and if you do not these things at the end of the appointment ye shall be rejected as a church, with your dead, saith the Lord your God.

33 For verily I say unto you, that after you have had sufficient time to build a house to me, wherein the ordinance of baptizing for the dead belongeth, and for which the same was instituted from before the foundation of the world, your baptisms for your dead cannot be acceptable unto me;

34 For therein are the keys of the holy priesthood ordained, that you may receive honor and glory.

35 And after this time, your baptisms for the dead, by those who are scattered abroad, [the future LDS church] are not acceptable unto me, saith the Lord.

Okay….

To me it is clear as day that this is the Nauvoo House not the Nauvoo Temple. There is no change of subject at any point in those verses. One more piece of evidence is verse 22, “Let my servant George, and my servant Lyman, and my servant John Snider, and others, build a house unto my name, such a one as my servant Joseph shall show unto them, upon the place which he SHALL show unto them also.”

Before Section 124 was received, they were already building the Nauvoo Temple.

The Nauvoo House needed to be shown them!

Verses 51-55 refer to the Nauvoo Temple.

Then Verse 56 goes on and talks about the Nauvoo House for another thirty verses… That’s what Section 124 teaches. What does Denver teach?

Snufferites, where are you?

Tell me where I’m wrong.

-G.azelem

False Prophets pt. 4 “The Mormon Blogosphere”

Recently, I came across a passage in the New Testament, one which has truly come to reflect our current-day situation:

There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.” 1 Cor 14:10

Right now there are many voices in the world. So many different opinions about Mormonism– each with their own slant on what is happening.

They are all significant.

Even if they are wrong, they are still significant.

This post is about all the Mormon blogs I follow, and my thoughts pertaining to each.

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  1. http://puremormonism.blogspot.ca/

This has probably been my favorite blog over the past few years. It’s written by a very humble follower of Christ, someone by the name of Rock Waterman. His latest piece, however, is what inspired me to begin a review of his work, as well as others like him.

His latest piece is called, “On the High Road to Apostasy” which highlights many reasons why the LDS church is… well, on a high road to apostasy.

Everything in his post is correct. But this is what he’s been saying for 5+ years!

The LDS church is still his focal point. During his excommunication, Rock was shocked by what was happening. It took him by total surprise that they ex’d him in such an unsound and unscriptural manner.

But if the church is in apostasy, of course they aren’t going to be following the scriptures! He has been ex’d for over a year now, yet he still writes about the LDS church…

Nothing can be done about the church. Its bed has been made. This is the failing of Pure Mormonism.

Once you understand the prophetic events that are about to take place, the LDS church takes a backseat. Being excommunicated should be an eye-opener, a blessing, not a conondrum.

Rock is a wonderful man, and I love how valiant he has been in his search for truth. I believe that he will accept True Prophets when they arrive on scene. The only thing that stands between him and God is Denver Snuffer.

  1. http://www.totheremnant.com/

This is an incredible blog. Believe it or not, I have learned a lot from Adrian Larsen’s writings. He focuses on the scriptures and digs up hidden truths that everyone else seems to bypass.

His wife gave a talk at the Denver Snuffer Doctrine Conference; and it was awesome to discover that she is just as sharp as her husband, in some ways even more so. Her talk in fact brought tears to my eyes.

[update: I was informed by the author of To The Remnant, that the speaker at the Doctrine of Christ conference was not his [Adrian Larsen’s] wife, but his brother’s.]

These two are deeply commited to the cause of Christ, and have the best intentions of any.

How the Larsen’s happen to believe in Denver Snuffer as a prophet is not a huge shocker. Denver’s message appeals to the pure in heart– to those that truly want to live a Christ-like life.

Forget the church, follow Christ.”

This is the right message. And this is what attracts people to Denver Snuffer. However, Denver’s ministry is not in accordance to scriptural prophecy. That’s what makes him a danger to people’s salvation.

There are people who hold the belief that they can live the fulness of the gospel– as taught by DS. This is incorrect.

The fulness is not on the earth– and so long as people believe they are living it, this will become a huge stumbling-block.

  1. https://ldsanarchy.wordpress.com/

This is a fascinating blog. The Anarchist is one of the most colorful personalities in Mormondom. He claims to be a prophet. Has many revelations, dreams, visions etc. all of which I find very fascinating.

Every post of his I am excited to read. He is full of light and truth. However, he happens to also be deceived on a number of issues.

In some areas of the scriptures, he is light years ahead of most. But like the Larsen’s, he has stumbling-blocks of his own.

He believes that there will be “Josephite” prophet from Lehi’s seed, who will be the major player in the last days. The Anarchist believes that this guy is the one mighty and strong who will gather the tribes of Israel and bring about Zion.

His failure to rethink this will prevent him from further understanding.

Because he considers himself a prophet, his beliefs are “revelations” that came from God. Because of this, he finds himself in no position to doubt or question those revelations. He has to stay true to his spiritual experiences which are what sustain his journey of faith.

Like those caught up in the grand delusion of the LDS church, the Anarchist must also recognize he has been deceived the same way all of us have been led astray.

Just as Mormons must discard their spirtual experiences that “the church is true” the Anarchist must discard his own.

Every single one of us has been deceived, and will continue to be to deceived until the fulness of the priesthood returns to the earth. However, the Anarchist has lots to offer, and I highly recommend reading through his writings.

  1. http://greatandmarvelouswork.com/

There seems to be multiple authors who contribute to this blog. It contains very similar information that I, Watcher, and Searcher, have highlited on our blogs. [ https://onewhoiswatching.wordpress.com/https://onewhoissearching.com/ ]

The biggest difference between this blog and the three of ours is the rejection of the Doctrine and Covenants.

The authors of “The Great and Marvelous Work” have been influenced by the writings of David Whitmer. Like Whitmer, they have concluded that Joseph Smith was commanded by God to only bring forth the Book of Mormon, and that everything else that followed was Joseph going beyond his bounds.

After reading David Whitmer’s “An Address to All Believers in Christ” I can empathize as to why they have made their dire conclusions.

It would make matters very simple to write off the LDS church as a whole.

However, to deny the revelations of Jesus Christ as contained in the D&C is a rejection of God’s word.

This is a big deal.

The Doctrine and Covenants is a very important canon of scripture. It is absolutely indispensible.

  1. http://www.defendingjoseph.com/

Similar to denying the D&C, the author of “In Defense of Joseph” has denied that Joseph was ever involved with the principle of polygamy.

Again, it would make matters very simple to adopt this frame of thought. Oh how great it would be to believe that Joseph was innocent of polygamy…

I, myself, believed this at one point.

There has been much good research done defending this. Richard and Pamela Price, for instance, have done a great job at presenting the case that Brigham Young & others began the practice, not Joseph.

Just as David Whitmer gives a plausible case for the denial of the D&C, there is a plausible case for a monogamist-Joseph Smith.

These are significant voices.

Everyone must study the evidence and prayerfully consider these perspectives.

I am of the belief that one must accept that Joseph stopped abiding in the Lord in order for them to fully understand the secret history of Mormonism. I believe that those who believe him to be innocent are under the influence of a very seductive false spirit.

It feels good to believe that Joseph is innocent.

I understand this, and empathize with those who hold this position. The secular evidence is not entirely conclusive.

My belief that Joseph was guilty of polygamy– comitting treachery against the wife of his youth– is rooted from biblical and modern prophecy pertaining to him.

  1. http://anonymousbishop.com/

This is a site much like Adrian Larsen’s, To The Remnant.

AB has a knack for writing some great stuff. But like Larsen, the Anonymous Bishop is caught up in the Denver delusion. It is very rare that he even makes mention of DS, but he has alluded to him just enough times to make it clear that he DOES believe Denver Snuffer to be a true messenger.

Not only does AB write good articles, the comments sections explode with great discussion, to which I even chime in.

  1. https://zomarah.wordpress.com/

Like the Anonymous Bishop is similar to To the Remnant, this blog is very similar to Pure Mormonism.

Zomarah and Rock continue to insistently write about the LDS church. All of its problems and issues.

The fact of the matter is that there are literally hundreds of problems and none of it is ever going to change.

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This brings me to the reason I decided to write this post.

I believe that I have the answers to which all of these other voices are seeking, or claim to have found.

I believe I have the missing pieces.

My next post, which will be titled “Mysteries of the Kingdom pt. 3”, will outline exactly what is going to occur in the near future, by detailing where we are in the prophetic timeline, as recorded in the Book of Revelation.

I believe if you have an understanding of prophecy, the problems in the church will become irrelevent to you, same with Denver Snuffer.

[Not only will DS appear irrelevent, but dangerous even.]

Lastly, I want to return back to the original scripture I shared:

There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.” 1 Cor 14:10

Remember that God has ordained all of these conflicting voices, and they all have a very important place.

Rock Waterman opened my eyes to many issues about the LDS church; Denver Snuffer even taught me many things– albeit years ago.

It’s up to each of us to figure out the truth in between all of them.

When the Lord brings again Zion, his watchmen will finally see eye to eye. (Isaiah 52:8) Until then, we must be very, very careful–

because none of us will see on the exact same page until then.

My hope is that my next post will be of great use to those seeking the truth. Even if someone may disagree with everything else I’ve written, I think my next post will be very important regardless.

I don’t mean to sound prideful and arrogant. I don’t have all the answers, and I certainly am no more righteous than the next person.

All I mean to say is that these voices in the Mormon blogosphere are deeply flawed in one way or another.

My next post will prove this.

My next post will provide the keys to avoid being deceived by false prophets– in and out of the LDS church.

I of course challenge anyone who happens to read it to find flaws therein. If I am wrong, I will gladly change my paradigm.

I seek the truth and nothing else. This has nothing to do with me. I have been wrong in my life about nearly everything. I’m not afraid to be wrong again. We must all be humble and willing to rethink our beliefs.

-G.azelem

False Prophets pt. 3 “Second Comforter Prophets”

I’ve been following Denver Snuffer for years now. Much of what he has written is legitimate and thoughtful. If it was anyone but him, I’d be impressed by his thoughts and ideas. However, DS claims that he has been taught by Jesus Christ.

With claims like that, there comes a greater expectation. Because of this, I have carefully scrutinized both him and his teachings. In fact, he has demanded that everyone do this. Read this:

I have never said this publicly, but because of what I think will ensue after this talk I am going to say it, not for my sake, and certainly not for the sake of anyone who believes the truth or who has the Spirit, but I say it only to benefit those who may view things completely otherwise. 9 The Lord has said to me in His own voice, “I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you.” Therefore, I want to caution those who disagree with me, to feel free, to feel absolutely free to make the case against what I say. Feel free to disagree, and make your contrary arguments. If you believe I err, then expose the error and denounce it. But take care; take care about what you say concerning me for your sake, not for mine. I live with constant criticism. I can take it. But I do not want you provoking Divine ire by unfortunately chosen words if I can persuade you against it.
–Lecture 10

Yikes.

I remember reading this on my mission, when the lectures were first transcribed onto denversnuffer.com; and I want it known that I took what he said very seriously. Everyone should– because if Denver really has been called to deliver a message from God, we of course need to heed and obey, or thus be damned instead.

Since then I have found numerous reasons to reject Denver Snuffer and thus classify him as a false prophet.

The biggest reason is this next claim of his, delivered in the same lecture as the last paragraph I’ve already included:

Thereafter, I appealed to the First Presidency, outlining the involvement of the 12 and the 70. The appeal gave notice to them all. The appeal was summarily denied. Last general conference, the entire First Presidency, the 12, the 70, and all other general authorities and auxiliaries, voted to sustain those who abused their authority in casting me out of the church. At that moment, the Lord ended all claims of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, to claim it is led by the priesthood.
–Lecture 10

According to DS, during the general conference of April 2014, all claims of priesthood in the LDS church became void. A very bold thing to say. Did this happen? He is either correct, or he is wrong. Remember, he is being tutored by Jesus Christ, and angels– so he better know what he’s talking about.

So does the LDS church still have the priesthood?

No, it doesn’t.

But this has nothing to do with Denver Snuffer.

Since 1841, the church has only held one of the three orders of priesthood. So in April 2014, there was nothing important to lose.

[The church only contains the Aaronic priesthood– until the sons of Levi AGAIN offer unto the Lord an offering of righteousness.]

Apologist’s of Denver may contest me and say that Denver was not saying that the church lost the Melchizedek or Patriarchal, but simply lost whatever priesthood it had– but that would be to deny all of Denver’s previous teachings on priesthood.

In 2009, Denver had this to say:

The Church holds the sealing power as a part of the restoration of all things… Joseph commented on three degrees of priesthood: Aaronic, Melchizedek and Patriarchal… The Church possesses and administers all three. Those who have their callings and election made sure also hold all three.
–Beloved Enos

Denver has clearly taught that the church held all three priesthoods. Once you understand the simple matter that the fulness of the priesthood was lost in 1835 to never be restored, all his points fall flat.

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Just as you can surmise the LDS teachings into one simple concept– “follow the prophet”– the same thing can be done with Denver:

“You can receive the second comforter.”

A recent development I’ve had with my own understanding of the gospel is that there is actually no such thing as a second comforter.

There is only the Comforter.

I’ve realized the whole concept of Denver’s teachings have been built on a faulty premise; and that everyone teaching or believing in a “second” Comforter have been deceived.

And yes– I know that Joseph Smith apparently did teach that there was a second Comforter, but that wouldn’t be the first thing he got wrong. I think the scriptures speak for themselves.

John 14-17 contain many marvelous and deep teachings. In my opinion, it’s there that we find the meat of the gospel.

We read in Hebrews that the meat of the gospel is only for those that have learned to discern between good and evil. Therefore, I think that anyone that misinterprets the deeper teachings of Christ, have not used the milk of the gospel to deliver themselves from doing and practicing evil. Only until someone sheds their false beliefs will they then understand the true essence of what the gospel of Jesus Christ is really saying.

I do not believe myself to be completely exempt. Even the humble followers of Christ are deceived in one way or another. I do not think I am 100% right about anything, but I do think that I have learned to discern between good and evil.

That said, I wouldn’t want anyone taking my word for anything. Same with Joseph Smith, or anyone else. We need to go back to the word of God and discover what it actually says about a given subject.

No matter what religion we grew up with, we all have been brainwashed and indoctrinated to believe falsehoods.

For instance, I never would have thought to question the concept of the second Comforter. I’ve been seriously studying the scriptures for years, but not once had it ever crossed my mind to doubt whether or not there even is a second Comforter. That’s how deeply ingrained it is in LDS thought.

Over the last few years, I’ve had to slowly peel away all the false teachings I’ve grown up with.

Here is why I reject the second Comforter, and all those that espouse it:

In John 14 we read,

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth;

Here the Comforter is referred to as the Spirit of truth. This is the “other” Comforter that people believe is not the Holy Ghost, but Jesus Christ. The reason people think that it is not the Holy Ghost, is because the word “another” is placed there. I admit that this does make it appear as though there is a distinction. However, I think the key is that the Comforter referred to in verse 16 is associated with being the Spirit of truth.

With that said, take a look at John 15:

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.

This verse does not support the second comforter doctrine. When you discard that idea, the theology behind the Holy Ghost begins to make much more sense.

We know that the Holy Ghost was not given while Jesus was on the earth. It was only until he was glorified that the Holy Ghost/endowment/baptism of fire was finally bestowed on his followers– on the day of Pentecost.

The Spirit of truth is not the personage of Jesus Christ.

Returning back to John 15:

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.

27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

Students of the Bible have believed that verse 27 is only referring to the fact that the apostles of Jesus have been with him from the beginning of his ministry.

Modern revelation reveals the deeper meaning of what Jesus was saying.

Section 93:

21 And now, verily I say unto you, I was in the beginning with the Father, and am the Firstborn;

22 And all those who are begotten through me are partakers of the glory of the same, and are the church of the Firstborn.

23 Ye were also in the beginning with the Father; that which is Spirit, even the Spirit of truth;

Receiving the Spirit of truth– the fulness of the Holy Ghost, the one and only Comforter– is associated with being a member of the church of the Firstborn. If my assumptions are correct, those that will receive the Spirit of truth were the ones that were with Jesus Christ, who was with the Father, in the very, very beginning…

Back to John 14:

20 At that day [that you receive the Comforter] ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

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I think whether or not someone correctly understands these passages or not, defines whether or not they really were with Jesus in the beginning, whether or not they are “of God” like Jesus was.

-G.azelem

 

False Prophets pt. 1 “Denver Snuffer”

D&C 50:2

There are many spirits which are false spirits, which have gone forth in the earth, deceiving the world.

A peculiar quote from Joseph Smith was the idea that every religious tradition has its own distinct spirit that follows it. The Denver Snuffer movement has a very powerful one, and it’s growing stronger and stronger. Evidence for this is found here: http://latterdaywitnesses.com/interview-with-robert-smith-shares-his-life-journey-and-witness-of-christ/

Just as Denver Snuffer saw a false Christ, others are as well now. It used to be only a few individuals, but it’s becoming more and more common. I used to consider DS harmless, but his claims are too bold to continue to ignore. His influence and false-accompanying-spirit is picking up too much traction.

After publishing The Second Comforter, Denver Snuffer has tried to appeal his message to several different groups of people:

First, he went for completely active, Brethren-friendly, LDS members. He did this with his books, “Beloved Enos”, and “Come, Let Us Adore Him.” He was just another LDS member, who happened to have a marvelous experience.

Secondly, he went for Mormons with one foot in the door, and the other on the way out. He released “Removing the Condemnation” and then, of course, “Passing the Heavenly Gift.”

Recently, Denver has apparently reached out to polygamist groups. And now, as of June 29th, 2016, it has been announced– on his website– that the fourth group he will target is, quite simply, Christians.

Denver has in fact unveiled that he has written an entire book designed for mainline Christians. From his site:

The book is an attempt to re-introduce Joseph Smith as an important Christian figure, separate from institutional Mormonism. It is time he became relevant to all Christians, and no longer regarded as the property of Mormonism. The new book should be available on Amazon by early August if anyone is interested.”

Personally, I suspect he will have no such luck in his this endeavour. I believe this for a multiplicity of reasons. I think he is best off appealing to the TBM’s.

Anyone that has ever believed– with all their heart– that Thomas S. Monson is a prophet, is capable of great deception, and is thus susceptible to being deceived once again.

Believers of DS trade crazy for crazy. But the thing is, they are sincere. Yet sincerity has nothing to with the truth. However, they are sincerely trying to follow Christ, which does count for something.

I believe the followers of DS, as well as the followers of some other false prophets, are Terrestrial souls, who belong to Christ at his second coming, even though they were blinded by the craftiness of men. They are Christ’ people– Israel– but they are not of the elect who will be caught up in the cloud.

A DS-inspired blog has itself named “To The Remnant”, which I find ironic, because it truly is a blog for the remnant spoken of in scripture that will be on the earth when Christ and his elect descend to the earth.

The movement of Denver Snuffer has attributed to two great things: the seeing of a false Christ; and a falsely-perceived concept of Joseph Smith.

From ‘To The Remnant’:

Unfortunately, the “saints” stone, cast out, and kill Joseph yet today. Here are some of the ways those who claim to accept Joseph Smith’s mission, instead participate in his assassination:

DS-followers have traded the LDS-church-Joseph for a new Joseph that is just as idealistic and invented!

The truth about Joseph Smith is not easy to grasp. I myself have gone back and forth on to what degree Joseph may have really been innocent of the charges brought against him. I see now that this is a seducing spirit that follows all apostate LDS traditions. Believing in a false Joseph Smith spawns more false beliefs.

My recommended reading on this topic:

https://onewhoiswatching.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/three-chapters-on-the-intercessory-atonement-offering.pdf

https://onewhoissearching.com/2015/03/08/one-like-unto-moses/

In closing, I want to mention what I find most curious about Denver Snuffer. After following his activity for the last three years or so, the most confusing thing to me is his ever-changing thoughts on polygamy and the temple.

The sinking feeling I have is that Denver will bring back polygamy. I think this is bound to occur when he creates his own version of the LDS endowment. After he indoctrinates his followers with new esoteric rituals, there is no telling what may happen.

D&C 50:7

There are hypocrites among you, who have deceived some, which has given the adversary power, but behold such shall be reclaimed.

There is a great many of individuals who have been deceived by the claims of Denver Snuffer, with his false Christ, and seducing spirits. Apparently, such shall be reclaimed. Hopefully, for some at least, this happens in time for them to accept the new and everlasting covenant when it finally returns to the earth. Because Denver Snuffer does not even know what the new and everlasting covenant is, I know that he is a false prophet, and thus can never have seen Christ.

Those that are not reclaimed in time for when the First Elders return to the earth, will be reclaimed at the Second Coming. This is the remnant. They will be sanctified after their pain, which will be brought upon them by the teachings of a false prophet.

-G.azelem