The Priesthood pt. 2 “Denver Snuffer is a prophet!!!!!!!!”

This is crazy, you guys. This is crazy.

So I read this post–

http://upwardthought.blogspot.ca/2017/02/what-prophet-is-and-what-prophet-is-not.html

It is written by someone who claims to have seen Christ, just like Denver Snuffer!

I was reading Alma and oh my gawsh I just realized the missing key:

12 And now, when Amulek had spoken these words the people began to be astonished, seeing there was more than one witness who testified of the things whereof they were accused, and also of the things which were to come, according to the spirit of prophecy which was in them.

If there’s more than one witness who testifies then we know it’s legit!

Right?

Wrong…

Sorry to be sensationalist, but now that I’ve got your attention, let me highlight another segment of the verse:

12 And now, when Amulek had spoken these words the people began to be astonished, seeing there was more than one witness who testified of the things whereof they were accused, and also of the things which were to come, according to the spirit of prophecy which was in them.

What is the spirit of prophecy?

Revelation 19 explains, “the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”

What is a testimony of Jesus Christ?

Who can actually bear testimony of him?

Mormons bear their testimonies every month, all claiming to know God; and there are new people coming out every month it seems, and they ALL are bearing testimonies of receiving the second comforter– but are they actually eligible to do so?

What of the LDS brethren? Do they?

The answer to all these questions is that NO ONE should be bearing “testimony” of Christ.

No one has the spirit of prophecy.

No man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.” 1 Cor 12:3

…AND NOBODY’S GOT THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST YET.

I know much of my readership believes that Christ can visit anyone anytime, and that there’s no reason to say someone isn’t, that it’s even arrogant of me to claim others experiences are false–

It seems no matter how much evidence I bring forth, I am incapable of changing anyone’s mind–

Let me entertain you some more…

Let’s return to Alma.

Alma is a bona-fide prophet. This is how Amulek describes him:

7 As I was journeying to see a very near kindred, behold an angel of the Lord appeared unto me and said: Amulek, return to thine own house, for thou shalt feed a prophet of the Lord; yea, a holy man, who is a chosen man of God; for he has fasted many days because of the sins of this people, and he is an hungered, and thou shalt receive him into thy house and feed him, and he shall bless thee and thy house; and the blessing of the Lord shall rest upon thee and thy house.

Alma is a holy man, who is chosen of God.

In my last post in this series I explained what it means to be chosen.

We are called to be elders, and hopefully CHOSEN to receive the Melchizedek priesthood.

Is it wrong to consider someone holy?

Nope.

Alma was holy.

Those of the first resurrection are considered holy. (Rev 20:6)

Is Denver Snuffer holy?

By his own admission, no. He is all like super humble, right? Says he’s such a wretched sinner like all of us…

I’m sorry, but this won’t do!

To be chosen, to receive the spirit of prophecy, you must be holy.

(Of course, anyone that achieves holiness achieves it only through the grace and blood of the Lord.)

Now I want to cover an important doctrine, then return back to the post by Rob Smith I mentioned at the start of this post.

The important doctrine I want to cover is important.

Seriously important.

If you’re still reading this, props to you! Now really think of what I’m about to share.

The doctrine is this:

the revelation of Jesus Christ”

This is the Melchizedek priesthood, which is a baptism of fire.

[If you don’t understand how a baptism of fire is an election to the fulness of the priesthood, please read my last post– https://themarvelouswork.com/2017/01/29/the-priesthood-pt-1-nobody-holds-the-melchizedek-priesthood-sorry-not-sorry/ ]

Nobody can bear testimony of Christ, until they receive “the revelation of Jesus Christ.”

This doctrine begins in the Holy Bible, and culminates in the D&C.

Galatians 1:

11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

D&C 84:

1 A revelation of Jesus Christ unto his servant Joseph Smith, Jun., and six elders, as they united their hearts and lifted their voices on high.

42 And wo unto all those who come not unto this priesthood which ye have received, which I now confirm upon you who are present this day, by mine own voice out of the heavens;

God has made it perfectly clear who has received the Melchizedek priesthood, the revelation of Jesus Christ.

These are the first elders of the church.

These are they who hold the keys of the kingdom.

These are they who had the right to BEAR TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ, because they received the Holy Ghost, the Comforter.

These guys…

were bona-fide prophets.

They came in at the gate and received a baptism of fire.

Those that have not come in at the gate are DECEIVING people, says Section 43.

They are, “laying the foundations of the devil… laying traps and snares to catch the holy ones of God.” Alma 10:17

Notice that?

The holy ones are ensnared by false prophets. That’s why Mormons are usually such loveable people. They are holy ones. That’s why the Snufferite movement has enraptured so many wonderful disciples of Christ. They ARE the holy ones of God.

However, when the fulness of the gospel is on the earth again, everyone is going to be held accountable to whether or not they receive it or not. Right now we are accountable to a much lesser light.

It’s easier to be considered holy by God when you haven’t been taught the truth your entire life–

But when the truth is available, it’s a different story.

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Now, Denver Snuffer has been a major let-down to his followers. They are beginning to notice discrepancies with his teachings.

So do they acknowledge the error of their ways?

No. Instead, they have re-invented the role of Denver in their life, and in doing so have re-created what a prophet even is.

This is what Rob Smith has to say: “Please do not be so simple and foolish as to believe a man’s message is correct just because he has had experiences with God. He could be a liar. He could be wrong. He could be clinging to lower truth. He could even be sent from God to lie to you. We ought to focus on the Lord Jesus, and scrutinize what we hear from men no matter what they have revealed or how beneficial it has been in the past.”

See…

See how enlightened the Snufferite movement is??? They’ve progressed beyond the need for prophets….

This is where Rob Smith EPICLY FAILS:

We (especially we from and LDS background) like the idea of a strongman-prophet. We like the idea of reducing the complexities of the gospel into betting on the right horse. We like thinking that salvation is all about finding and then following someone who has had spiritual experiences. It simply does not work like that.”

Yeah, I’d say something like that too if I was following a madman like Denver.

The LDS church set the bar low for prophets.

Now Denver has set it even lower.

Now prophets aren’t supposed to do anything!

This is absolutely ridiculous.

Section 76 outlines what those of the Celestial Kingdom had to do in this life in order to receive that inheritance.

It includes receiving the Holy Spirit of Promise by the laying on of hands by someone who is ORDAINED AND SEALED unto that power.

Denver Snuffer ‘aint giving the Holy Spirit of Promise to anybody.

They claim to be receiving it all on their own.

The Snufferite movement has rejected Section 76, and in effect they are rejecting God’s word.

I pray he has mercy on their souls.

Good thing I am:

22 Yea, and I say unto you that if it were not for the prayers of the righteous, who are now in the land, that ye would even now be visited with utter destruction…

23 But it is by the prayers of the righteous that ye are spared;

My question to Rob Smith, with his new-found epiphanies, is this: Why are you not looking for someone who is ordained and sealed unto the power to give you the Holy Spirit of Promise?

I’m seriously asking.

Those claiming to receive the Comforter, are bearing FALSE testimony.

-G.azelem

5 thoughts on “The Priesthood pt. 2 “Denver Snuffer is a prophet!!!!!!!!”

  1. Excellent, I have to agree with you on all but you’re assumption that D Snuffer is a madman. I would have to allude by his contradictions and admissions to being a sinful man that he is clearly and cleverly deceiving people because he owes his allegiance to another oath, maybe of the Scottish Rite, I don’t know but his oaths are not with the God of Israel. A man must be sanctified and holy before he can become a true servant, he must be wholly clean. I went to a snufferite meeting in AZ and I brought the point up that ‘perfection’ is required. They scoffed and I then saw how deep Denvers devious propaganda has taken hold of these holy ones who have been taken out of the ‘most abominable’ church (LDS)

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  2. Wow, that’s a good point concerning the wheat and tares and I would like to believe that this is still in the process of happening. I will read that post. Thanks for boldly speaking truth. I whole- heartedly agree that one must look for someone who is called of God or more specifically one with with the sealing power. This snuffer movement is almost brought about on purpose to hijack the opposition to the ‘most abominable’…the exact same powers that control the geopolitical and economic system are guiding this so-called restoration movement in the same way they hijack third parties.

    It’s like a ship with bulkheads, those ‘snufferites’ are sadly still on the LDS ship and u are one of the few I have read who tell the truth concerning the ‘restorationists’. I believe they are being led backwards.

    We don’t need to restore anything. Zion isn’t a restoration it is to know the true doctrine of Christ and be agreed upon in this doctrine and act. Jumping to baptism of fire without ever actually being baptized by one with sealing power is out of order and of the adversary, probably unknowingly in most cases.

    Keep it up!

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  3. Have you read anything else Rob has written? Specifically his ebook “Teaching for Doctrines the Commandments of Men” and his 11-7-2016 post Zion: Zeal without Knowledge. I’m remembering that he has another post warning those following Snuffer to not trade one boat for another.

    I think you guys are on the same side. We are all learning. For any of us to think that we have it all figured out is far from perfection.

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  4. Please consider what nephi had to say about himself. Wasn’t he a prophet? Didn’t he exclaim “oh wretched man that I am?”

    Just a thought on the expected perfection that you envision.

    Also, I believe that there are two ways of receiving the Holy Ghost… one is to have someone ordained and sealed unto that power as D&C 76 states. The other is shown in 3 nephi 12:1
    “and after that ye are baptized with water, behold, I will baptize you with fire and with the Holy Ghost;”

    Does it not appear that there is more than one way to receive this?

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